nightrider 13 #2185 Posted January 15, 2021 22 hours ago, Mister Gee said: How much longer do we have to endure this vacuous condescending drivel? Next election is in 2024 I believe, so a very long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow 693 #2186 Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: The government has rejected the alleged claims. Which is worth precisely nothing. They have broken so many promises relating to Brexit that any assurances they give are valueless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat 11 #2187 Posted January 16, 2021 The Scottish fishermen are landing their catch in Denmark now. Theyre not happy. BBC News - Scottish fishermen 'sailing to Denmark to land catch' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55669168 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell 862 #2188 Posted January 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: The Scottish fishermen are landing their catch in Denmark now. Theyre not happy. BBC News - Scottish fishermen 'sailing to Denmark to land catch' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55669168 again...sod em, they get what they voted for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow 693 #2189 Posted January 16, 2021 This idea of compensating people who are worse off because of Brexit is surely a non-starter. Whose money are they going to use to do that with? And for how long - indefinitely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee 813 #2190 Posted January 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, melthebell said: again...sod em, they get what they voted for I feel for them mel, it must be awful realizing that you’ve been conned. The scales have fallen from their eyes very quickly and I think a lot of folk will follow, the farming industry for instance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
KinderKid 0 #2191 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) On 15/01/2021 at 11:51, ads36 said: quote a few articles out today, talking about government plans to scrap our rights to refuse to work more than 48 hours per week. "your employer will be able to sack you for not working 50+ hours per week" they didn't put that on the bus... The obvious answer here is to campaign to bring in similar legislation at the next election if you are unhappy with it. It is a bizarre argument to say that only the EU can protect worker's rights - if British workers want something they can vote for candidates who represent their views and bring forward the legislation in parliament. We should not be reliant on a "benevolent" EU with a worrying attitude to democracy to protect our rights for us. Edited January 16, 2021 by KinderKid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat 11 #2192 Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, KinderKid said: The obvious answer here is to campaign to bring in similar legislation at the next election if you are unhappy with it. It is a bizarre argument to say that only the EU can protect worker's rights - if British workers want something they can vote for candidates who represent their views and bring forward the legislation in parliament. We should not be reliant on a "benevolent" EU with a worrying attitude to democracy to protect our rights for us. British voters voted for the most right wing conservative party in decades, over and above the most left wing labour leadership in decades. The British voter hasn't got great form on voting in their best interests. But we'll see in 4 years when all this is all forgotten. Which it will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
KinderKid 0 #2193 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: British voters voted for the most right wing conservative party in decades, over and above the most left wing labour leadership in decades. The British voter hasn't got great form on voting in their best interests. But we'll see in 4 years when all this is all forgotten. Which it will be. This is fantastic, the whole argument in a nutshell 😁 Your premise seems to be that, if you don't win elections domestically you should cede power to a supranational organisation which will enforce your opinion without the approval of the electorate. It is a dangerous idea to say that voters should be protected from their own opinions and rides roughshod over the basic principles of democracy. It is for this exact reason that the electorate took their chance to leave whilst they could. Edited January 16, 2021 by KinderKid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat 11 #2194 Posted January 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, KinderKid said: This is fantastic, the whole argument in a nutshell 😁 Your premise seems to be that, if you don't win elections domestically you should cede power to a supranational organisation which will enforce your opinion without the approval of the electorate. It is a dangerous idea to say that voters should be protected from their own opinions and rides roughshod over the basic principles of democracy. It is for this exact reason that the electorate took their chance to leave whilst they could. Try reading it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 598 #2195 Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, KinderKid said: This is fantastic, the whole argument in a nutshell 😁 Your premise seems to be that, if you don't win elections domestically you should cede power to a supranational organisation which will enforce your opinion without the approval of the electorate. It is a dangerous idea to say that voters should be protected from their own opinions and rides roughshod over the basic principles of democracy. It is for this exact reason that the electorate took their chance to leave whilst they could. The euro? Schengen? Not very good at riding roughshod over the electorate 😎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
KinderKid 0 #2196 Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Longcol said: The euro? Schengen? Not very good at riding roughshod over the electorate 😎 I don't follow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...