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27 minutes ago, melthebell said:

dont look at that look over here everybody

Leave through and through - never mind the shambles we have, it could be worse, look over there.

 

My parents always told me, the only time you count from the bottom up is when you are running away from lions, never be last.

All other times, count from the top down - see how close to the top you are, after all, that is your target.

 

The Leave mentality seems just to be don't be at the bottom, but I fear the lions are getting nearer due to their choice.

 

Can't wait to rejoin whatever EU there is in a few years time - keep the light on!

5 hours ago, retep said:

Three fingers pointing back,

 

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2020/09/10/African-Swine-Fever-hits-Germany-What-does-it-mean-for-the-European-pork-sector

From September - nothing like being current - this is nothing like being current!

 

I guess next we will have the notification that we have a deal with Germany (held aloft by Chamberlain, as opposed to our little fascist, Mr BoShambles)

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Https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-vaccine-delays-brexit-ema-expensive

Does anyone remember this prediction from the Guardian, back in March last year?

 

Basically saying we would be at the back of the Queue for vaccines.

 

Looking at numbers vaccinated, they seem to have got it the wrong way round.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, melthebell said:

dont look at that look over here everybody

I'm looking at that, the sandwich they took from the lorry driver will have more than likely contained ham from the EU, wait for the swine fever virus crossing with Covid 19.

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7 hours ago, retep said:

Three fingers pointing back,

 

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2020/09/10/African-Swine-Fever-hits-Germany-What-does-it-mean-for-the-European-pork-sector

The government's phased approach to implementing border checks means we are not going to be doing checks on meat products entering the UK from the EU until the 1st April. So the thing you're so gleefully pointing out still applies to us.

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15 minutes ago, altus said:

The government's phased approach to implementing border checks means we are not going to be doing checks on meat products entering the UK from the EU until the 1st April. So the thing you're so gleefully pointing out still applies to us.

Better late than never,  the thing I'm pointing out is the ham that the EU is so worried about more than likely came from the EU all the lorry driver was doing is return to sender with a bit of bread and butter as an envelope, he should have eaten it in his cab and returned it the next day.

 

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2 hours ago, convert said:

Https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-vaccine-delays-brexit-ema-expensive

Does anyone remember this prediction from the Guardian, back in March last year?

 

Basically saying we would be at the back of the Queue for vaccines.

 

Looking at numbers vaccinated, they seem to have got it the wrong way round.

 

 

 

Macron was quick to close the UK / French border in the last few days of Brexit due to a spike in  COVID transmissions on this side of The Channel.

 

Give the French have been so lax in vaccinating their citizens & the Dutch are even worse at & they won't start mass vaccinations unti the 18th January, perhaps its time to reciprocate & close our borders to the French & Dutch, Channel tunnel, ports & airports? 

 

Afterall we already have a serious pandemic problem, especially in S. E. England & why should we put our citizens at risk & add to the NHS' problems by allowing in the great unvaccinated of our close neighbours? 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Baron99

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3 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Macron was quick to close the UK / French border in the last few days of Brexit due to a spike in  COVID transmissions on this side of The Channel.

 

Give the French have been so lax in vaccinating their citizens & the Dutch are even worse at & they won't start mass vaccinations unti the 18th January, perhaps its time to reciprocate & close our borders to the French & Dutch, Channel tunnel, ports & airports? 

 

Afterall we already have a serious pandemic problem, especially in S. E. England & why should we put our citizens at risk & add to the NHS' problems by allowing in the great unvaccinated of our close neighbours? 

That was after the UK PM had urgently told UK citizens living in the South East (i.e. near the channel ports) not to move about because he didn't know how serious the issue was. The French ban was lifted 2 days later after the UK had had chance to examine and assess the risks involved. Has a similarly urgent restriction of movement on French citizens living near Calais been applied by the French government?

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If you want to solely discuss the pandemic and restrictions on movement because of it please do so in the dedicated thread. 
 

Thank you.

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1 hour ago, retep said:

Better late than never,  the thing I'm pointing out is the ham that the EU is so worried about more than likely came from the EU all the lorry driver was doing is return to sender with a bit of bread and butter as an envelope, he should have eaten it in his cab and returned it the next day.

 

You can hardly blame the EU for not forgetting valuable lessons from the UK.

 

For the rest of it, rules are rules.

 

It's what the Leave mob never understood about the EU (it's a rules-based construct, not a country or federation) since before the referendum, and why so many in the UK appear to be so unprepared for them now .

 

Not to worry. It will sink in, eventually.

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21 minutes ago, L00b said:

 

You can hardly blame the EU for not forgetting valuable lessons from the UK.

 

For the rest of it, rules are rules.

 

It's what the Leave mob never understood about the EU (it's a rules-based construct, not a country or federation) since before the referendum, and why so many in the UK appear to be so unprepared for them now .

 

Not to worry. It will sink in, eventually.

Rules are rules as you say....it obviously hasn't sunk in in Germany though.

 

"Numbers provided to German newspaper Handelsblatt by the country’s economics ministry show the country’s government is subject to 74 infringement proceedings by the European Commission for failing to implement EU regulations properly in German law.

German Green party politician Markus Tressel told the newspaper Germany was now “bottom of the class” for following EU rules and far from the “model pupil” it was sometimes portrayed as.

The infringements against Germany, which can be started for delayed implementation or inadequate conversion into national laws, relate to policy areas like air pollution, water quality and fire protection.

The new statistics echo the latest available EU-wide figures on enforcement actions from the end of 2016, provided by the European Commission, which found Germany joint top with Spain.

Those countries were followed closely by Belgium, Greece, Portugal and France – all longstanding fans of the European project."

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-merkel-germany-breaks-more-eu-rules-worst-bottom-class-a8198271.html

Edited January 12, 2021 by sadbrewer

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According to Lord Green, (published in Migration Watch):

 

The new “points-based” immigration system comes into operation on January 1 but it will not reduce net migration. Indeed, it is far more likely to increase it substantially.

 

Certainly, most of the public will be unaware that the new arrangements for recruiting immigrant workers represent a total surrender to every demand that employers could think of. The ‘consultation’ groups set up by the Home Office were dominated by business interests and their advisory committee is largely comprised of economists. The outcome was a scheme providing a bonanza for business at the expense of their workers. Although it was published before Covid struck, no adjustments whatsoever have been made to take account of the massive deterioration in the UK labour market that has resulted.

The Government claim that their “simple, effective and flexible system will ensure that employers can recruit the skilled workers they need, while also encouraging employers to train and invest in the UK’s workforce.” It is impossible to see how the second half of this claim can be achieved.

The list of concessions is truly extraordinary. Here is a summary of the seven main changes:

1. There is to be no cap whatever on the number of foreign workers that employers can bring in to the UK. The previous cap has been removed and the government have not retained a ready means of re-imposing it.
2. The skill levels required have been reduced substantially from degree level to A level. Curiously, they are to apply to the job not the applicant thus providing considerable scope for abuse.
3. The basic salary requirement has been greatly reduced from £30,000 to only £25,600.
4. An even lower salary of £20,480 is to suffice for anyone under the age of 26 on arrival. This is not much more than the National Living Wage and is bound to add to the competition faced by young British workers seeking promotion.
5. The requirement to first advertise jobs within the UK has simply been abandoned despite widespread public support for keeping this provision in place, including 78 per cent of those in “Red Wall” seats. (Deltapoll, May 2020).
6. The salary requirement for settlement has been reduced by a massive £10,200 a year to £25,600. So foreign workers will find it easier to stay on, thus relieving employers from the need to train British replacements
7. All students will be able to stay on for an extra two years after they finish studying so as to work in the UK, even if that is no more than stacking shelves.

The impact of these changes is that some seven million jobs in the UK will be opened to new or increased competition by migrant workers at a lower threshold for both wages and qualifications. It is not hard to imagine that employers who have lost considerable sums over the past year will be tempted to employ cheaper labour from overseas.

 

Migration Watch UK Blog | What’s the point of taking back control of immigration if we don’t reduce it?

 

People knew what they were voting for. 🦄

Edited January 12, 2021 by Mister M

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22 hours ago, sadbrewer said:

Rules are rules as you say....it obviously hasn't sunk in in Germany though.

 

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And yet Germany was an ECSC member right from the start, then an EEC member state, all long before the UK...but that does not seem to have held back the German economy, industry, international trade, immigration, public healthcare, social housing, etc ever. How odd.

 

Speaking of Germans, DB Schenker announced late this afternoon, that they are suspending all new freight orders to the UK. That is massive. They're about as big as DHL, at the European scale.

 

I knew actual Brexit (the end of the WA period) was going to be bad. But not that bad and that quick, even with a 'no deal' outcome.

Edited January 13, 2021 by L00b