Pettytom   1 #1189 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Car Boot said: This is very interesting.  L00b has highlighted just how unpopular studying in an EU member state actually is with UK students.  Why don't UK students want to study in the EU? L00b cited figures of those students taking part in the Erasmus programme. If you don’t know what that is, you might like to check it out before you embarrass yourself any further.   Edited October 30, 2020 by Pettytom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #1190 Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Car Boot said: Less than 300,000 UK students in thirty years?  The total number of Higher Education students in the UK was 2,343,095 in 2017/18 alone.  So a tiny, insignificant number of UK Erasmus students studied in the EU.  In fact, more UK students go to study in the US and Australia than to all of the 27 EU countries combined. In 2014/2015 international students delivered 25 billion in income to the UK. Brexit and additional Visa requirements for EU students will have a negative impact. Up until August this year there was a believe that EU students would be exempt from visa requirements in any Brexit Deal to be agreed. No deal Brexit will mean all EU students will need a visa.   Sheffield is reliant on international students far in excess of most UK cities. The University of Sheffield calculated its international students were responsible for £230 million to S1 postcode in 2018/2019 academic year alone. This excludes Hallam, so add another 100 million there.  To put that into context, John Lewis' national profit over 2018 was just over 100 million.  Underestimate the impact of universities on the UK economy at your own peril.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #1191 Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Pettytom said: L00b cited figures of those students taking part in the Erasmus programme. If you don’t know what that is, you might like to check it out before you embarrass yourself any further.   L00b highlighted the very low participation rates of UK students on the Erasmus programme.  Perhaps you may wish to shed some light on why more UK students go to the US and Australia to study than the rest of the EU combined? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #1192 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Car Boot said: L00b highlighted the very low participation rates of UK students on the Erasmus programme.  Perhaps you may wish to shed some light on why more UK students go to the US and Australia to study than the rest of the EU combined? The Erasmus programme is separate to students travelling overseas to study for a degree. The motivation of the participants is very different  Have you considered the teaching language in the US, Australia and Germany? Do you think that makes a difference? Edited October 30, 2020 by Pettytom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #1193 Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pettytom said: The Erasmus programme is separate to students travelling overseas to study for a degree. The motivation of the participants is very different Why are UK students less motivated to join the Erasmus programme than students from EU member states? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #1194 Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Car Boot said: Why are UK students less motivated to join the Erasmus programme than students from EU member states? I don’t think they are.  What do you know about the motivation of students? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #1195 Posted October 31, 2020 7 hours ago, Pettytom said: I don’t think they are.  What do you know about the motivation of students? The UK receives almost twice as many students from the EU as it sends on the Erasmus programme.  In 2017, 16,561 UK students participated in Erasmus, while 31,727 EU nationals came to the UK.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47293927  Why are more EU students motivated to come to the UK to participate in Erasmus than UK students to go to the EU?   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #1196 Posted October 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Car Boot said: Why are UK students less motivated to join the Erasmus programme than students from EU member states? European students are far more likely to speak English sufficiently than English students are to speak any single foreign language at all. Whenever I meet a Brit that can actually speak German, French or Dutch it is usually because one of their parents speaks that language natively.  British students in the Netherlands doubled year on year since the Dutch Universities started an English first policy for a lot of their courses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #1197 Posted November 1, 2020 On 31/10/2020 at 08:49, tzijlstra said: European students are far more likely to speak English sufficiently than English students are to speak any single foreign language at all. Whenever I meet a Brit that can actually speak German, French or Dutch it is usually because one of their parents speaks that language natively.  British students in the Netherlands doubled year on year since the Dutch Universities started an English first policy for a lot of their courses. Thank you for that intelligent and considered response, tzijlstra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Litotes   63 #1198 Posted November 6, 2020 More lies from the dictatorship that is the government.  Boris Johnson has said he believes there is "a deal to be done" on post-Brexit trade with the EU. But while the UK prime minister "very much hopes" to come to an agreement, he said the country was "very well prepared" to move on without one.  As a liar, cheat, who is sexist and racist - why should we believe him?  His track record is one of death, destruction and absence. We should get rid of him now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #1199 Posted November 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Litotes said: More lies from the dictatorship that is the government.  Boris Johnson has said he believes there is "a deal to be done" on post-Brexit trade with the EU. But while the UK prime minister "very much hopes" to come to an agreement, he said the country was "very well prepared" to move on without one.  As a liar, cheat, who is sexist and racist - why should we believe him?  His track record is one of death, destruction and absence. We should get rid of him now! Of course he's said there's a deal to be done. New chap moving into the white house and the Americans won't like the GFA being broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
whiteowl   54 #1200 Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Litotes said: More lies from the dictatorship that is the government.  Boris Johnson has said he believes there is "a deal to be done" on post-Brexit trade with the EU. But while the UK prime minister "very much hopes" to come to an agreement, he said the country was "very well prepared" to move on without one.  As a liar, cheat, who is sexist and racist - why should we believe him?  His track record is one of death, destruction and absence. We should get rid of him now! Nothing to do with what's happening over the pond of course.  *edit* posted at the same time as Tinfoilhat 😂 Edited November 6, 2020 by whiteowl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...