RJRB 688 #253 Posted March 31, 2020 https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/uk-rejoin-eu-200130175005345.html Never say never Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b 441 #254 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RJRB said: https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/uk-rejoin-eu-200130175005345.html Never say never It's an interesting article for historical value, RJRB, but its 'rejoin' logic is premised entirely on the holding of a new 'Brejoin' referendum. That is highly unlikely for a period of years (5) at the very earliest, and more likely the decade or two that it will take to switch the British political majority back towards a social democracy, after the current populist autocracy experiment fails. Edited March 31, 2020 by L00b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB 688 #255 Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, L00b said: It's an interesting article for historical value, RJRB, but its 'rejoin' logic is premised entirely on the holding of a new 'Brejoin' referendum. That is highly unlikely for a period of years (5) at the very earliest, and more likely the decade or two that it will take to switch the British political majority back towards a social democracy, after the current populist autocracy experiment fails. All too true and the best that I can hope for is that the forthcoming deadlines and negotiations are tempered by current realities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 779 #256 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, RJRB said: https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/uk-rejoin-eu-200130175005345.html Never say never Stated it once before & I'll state it again, it's like dealing with Sisyphus. See post 241. Keep endlessly pushing that 2nd referendum boulder up that hill. Edited March 31, 2020 by Baron99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB 688 #257 Posted March 31, 2020 And I repeat Pyrrhic Victory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 779 #258 Posted April 1, 2020 7 hours ago, RJRB said: And I repeat Pyrrhic Victory A win is a win, as far as the majority are concerned. A majority win in the EU referendum, further backed up by a decisive General Election result where the electorate turned its back on those offering any 2nd EU referendum or revoking the whole lot in favour of staying in the EU. Now let's forget about all this 2nd referendum nonsense & move on. Really, people who are still going on about a referendum result that happened nearly 4 years ago, really do need refocus their perspective & channel their energy into something more worthwhile & productive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB 688 #259 Posted April 1, 2020 I don’t think that there will be a second referendum. What I do think is that current circumstances highlight the need for the closest cooperation between all countries is of paramount importance. Anyone who cannot see that the go it alone jingoistic claptrap of the far right is detrimental to us all is stuck in a 4 year old time warp. We are moving on but perhaps not as anticipated. So the softest of Brexit and the closest of relationships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b 441 #260 Posted April 1, 2020 7 hours ago, RJRB said: I don’t think that there will be a second referendum. What I do think is that current circumstances highlight the need for the closest cooperation between all countries is of paramount importance. Anyone who cannot see that the go it alone jingoistic claptrap of the far right is detrimental to us all is stuck in a 4 year old time warp. We are moving on but perhaps not as anticipated. So the softest of Brexit and the closest of relationships. Detrimental? Nowadays it is *actually* killing...and yet look at the approval ratings. As I posted, 10 to 20 years before the scales fall off from enough eyes, to matter politically. Same story elsewhere similar: US, Hungary, Poland... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB 688 #261 Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, L00b said: Detrimental? Nowadays it is *actually* killing...and yet look at the approval ratings. As I posted, 10 to 20 years before the scales fall off from enough eyes, to matter politically. Same story elsewhere similar: US, Hungary, Poland... Edited April 1, 2020 by RJRB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee 813 #262 Posted April 1, 2020 Farming is facing a monumental crisis. Watching Channel 4 reporting that up to 90% of the asparagus crop will go unpicked unless British workers pick up jobs. The EU migrant labour has stopped coming and Covid hasn't helped. That's just one crop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB 688 #263 Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, L00b said: Detrimental? Nowadays it is *actually* killing...and yet look at the approval ratings. As I posted, 10 to 20 years before the scales fall off from enough eyes, to matter politically. Same story elsewhere similar: US, Hungary, Poland... Sorry about#278 Was just trying to add that I will be interested to see how approval ratings trend both here and the US. Hopefully cometh the hour ,cometh the man.(or woman) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b 441 #264 Posted April 2, 2020 11 hours ago, RJRB said: Sorry about#278 Was just trying to add that I will be interested to see how approval ratings trend both here and the US. Hopefully cometh the hour ,cometh the man.(or woman) Well, after this morning's news, they're not likely to fall in the US: Trump has minions on the ground in China with cases full of cash, hijack-buying every consignment of masks in sight on tarmacs, sometimes at 3x the price, and sod the original purchasers. French local authorities have had several millions hijacked like that, would not surprise me one bit if likewise for other countries, including the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...