jaffa1 10 #13 Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) I'm not into Shakespeare but when I read it, excuse my ignorance but I couldn't make head or tail of what he was suppose to be meaning so how could anyone fish a bit of racism out of that? As John Wayne once said "Who wrote this <removed> anyway?" Edited January 30, 2020 by nikki-red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 771 #14 Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Stewart's (now ex colleague), Ranvir Singh, has thrown her full support behind him. I'd still say If he's guilty of anything, it's trying to believe that quoting a bit of Shakespeare in the middle of an argument, gives him some kind of superiority boost to his ego in trying to get one over Martin Shapland? Nothing else. However, as is the way of the world today, his employer has run scared at the first sign of controversy. Just had a look at the latest news on this & there's increasing support for Stewart & even Martin Shapland is now saying that Stewart should not have been forced to stand down. Well maybe he should have thought of that before sending weeks old tweets to ITN & strangly to the 'Tell MAMA' organisation, for some reason or other, which has been set up to monitor anti-Muslim attacks? Edited January 30, 2020 by Baron99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jaffa1 10 #15 Posted January 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Baron99 said: Stewart's (now ex colleague), Ranvir Singh, has thrown her full support behind him. I'd still say If he's guilty of anything, it's trying to believe that quoting a bit of Shakespeare in the middle of an argument, gives him some kind of superiority boost to his ego in trying to get one over Martin Shapland? Nothing else. I'll go along with that, I think he was just trying to be a smarty pants and it back fired on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 771 #16 Posted January 31, 2020 On a side note, I wonder if this is the end of Shakespeare's 'Othello'? Could you imagine Shakespeare trying to get that play on today? It'd be 'Love the play Bill but we think you're playing to racial stereotypes. Can you re-write it so Othello & Desdemona seek relationship counselling? " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ormester 11 #17 Posted January 31, 2020 The guy who made himself a victim nearly every tweet starts with white people he has a grudge and used this to enhance his popularity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo 96 #18 Posted January 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Baron99 said: I'd still say If he's guilty of anything, it's trying to believe that quoting a bit of Shakespeare in the middle of an argument, gives him some kind of superiority boost to his ego in trying to get one over Martin Shapland? Nothing else. Agree with this. Quoting our Will in this context is a bit like borrowing someone else’s genius to make yourself seem genius. Why don’t people use their own words to make their point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 771 #19 Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, ormester said: The guy who made himself a victim nearly every tweet starts with white people he has a grudge and used this to enhance his popularity. Well of this is true, surely this makes him a serial racist? He wants calling out. A touch of his own medicine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ormester 11 #20 Posted January 31, 2020 Apparently it can't be racist according to some people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pattricia 560 #21 Posted February 1, 2020 I think it was a very racist remark, whether from Shakespeare or not.! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WokeyMcWokeface 0 #22 Posted February 1, 2020 11 hours ago, pattricia said: I think it was a very racist remark, whether from Shakespeare or not.! How was it racist? Because the quotation compares humans to apes? He has used it before on another Twitter user who wasn't identifiably black. Pretentious maybe. Racist no. Don't lose sight of context and intent. Also check out some of the posting history of the accuser. He's deleted it all now but screen grabs are available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #23 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, WokeyMcWokeface said: How was it racist? Because the quotation compares humans to apes? He has used it before on another Twitter user who wasn't identifiably black. Pretentious maybe. Racist no. Don't lose sight of context and intent. Also check out some of the posting history of the accuser. He's deleted it all now but screen grabs are available. I think if you reply to a black person suggesting they are an “angry ape” whatever the context - and given the prevalence of people who refer to black people in that context - you’re either racist - or ignorant of what that might mean to people who’s race has been referred to as such. racist or error or judgment - either or - stupid. Edited February 1, 2020 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 771 #24 Posted February 2, 2020 15 hours ago, pattricia said: I think it was a very racist remark, whether from Shakespeare or not.! "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...