South Of Sheffield Traffic Madness

[slh73 32]

6 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

 

If you wish to get to St James, ride the tram to Birley Lane/ Donetsk Way And then have a bit of a bike ride 

You can't take bikes on the tram

[foxydebs 36]

11 hours ago, slh73 said:

You can't take bikes on the tram

You can take fold up bikes on the tram.

[maggidee 10]

the left hand lane from gleadless to turn in needed to come up about 50 yards nearer ,but the stupid one in out road you can  just about do a right or left without hitting a wing mirror stupid layout the times ive heard horns blasting

[hardworker 10]

Trying to cycle in Sheffield is akin to swimming with sharks. If the hills don't finish you off, the mad drivers will and failing that your lungs will be clogged with diesel particulate. It really isn't a  safe or practical cycling city I'm afraid. I bit more thought on the layout of roads and two lane entering the centre for left and right shops would clear Bochum parkway faster. There is room to do this. 

[Planner1 428]

2 hours ago, hardworker said:

Trying to cycle in Sheffield is akin to swimming with sharks.

So pretty safe if you keep your wits about you then........

 

chances of being killed by a shark  = 1 in 3.75 million

chances of being killed in car accident  = 1 in 84

See: https://www.thewildlifemuseum.org/exhibits/sharks/odds-of-a-shark-attack/

 

[Hadron 10]

The whole of Sheffield's road network is set up restrict or stop as you get closer to the centre with rail bridges, towns, other roads & rivers as natural restrictions. two lanes become one and then you hit the traffic lights. Not one area in Sheffield has a road in or out that you can get from one side of the city to the other without a junction that stops you. No ring road, no fly over, no underpass. It has all been made flat and that costs time, money and has raised pollution levels to there highest ever.  Cycling is dangerous because car drivers that have never cycled don't have a clue what its like for cyclists on the roads  and drive too closely.  I would like to see cycling on the road as part of the driving test. 

[Daven 10]

3 minutes ago, Hadron said:

The whole of Sheffield's road network is set up restrict or stop as you get closer to the centre with rail bridges, towns, other roads & rivers as natural restrictions. two lanes become one and then you hit the traffic lights. Not one area in Sheffield has a road in or out that you can get from one side of the city to the other without a junction that stops you. No ring road, no fly over, no underpass. It has all been made flat and that costs time, money and has raised pollution levels to there highest ever.  Cycling is dangerous because car drivers that have never cycled don't have a clue what its like for cyclists on the roads  and drive too closely.  I would like to see cycling on the road as part of the driving test. 

Not a deal different to any other UK city really.

No underpass or flyover (thank God) - but Sheffield does have a ring road .

Edited December 30, 2019 by Daven

[abbeyedges 82]

1 hour ago, Daven said:

Not a deal different to any other UK city really.

No underpass or flyover (thank God) - but Sheffield does have a ring road .

Is the ring complete?

[Planner1 428]

53 minutes ago, abbeyedges said:

Is the ring complete?

The Inner Ring Road is complete. Outer is only partial.

[Spiderplant 0]

The hills do make a massive difference to many people in Sheffield-the elderly, the ill who can't walk up hills but could walk a distance on flat roads, people pushing babies in buggies. These are all people for whom bikes would not necessarily be an answer, and the hills are significant.  If there were trams in the south of the city they would provide an answer, but I have no idea where you could put them! Ecclesall Road or Psalter Lane are certainly not wide enough for them. Trams are brilliant to get to Meadowhall once you get to the city centre, but some better transport in the south would be great. Also, as someone said, getting across the city. via public transport is impossible. Bents Green to  Crookes/Fulwood for example. Again, the hills make it difficult to walk too, not just because of the hills but the lack of decent pavements. 

[bassett one 449]

thats a problem with many areas including the south part,with nothing but hills from the city,we or at least most people are so happy to have st james retail park,pity its not bigger as most say they would of liked iceland,poundland and a kentucky ect,but most are pleased,but its very difficult the way its set out re-parking

[Weredoomed 10]

On 27/12/2019 at 11:12, Planner1 said:

In my view the only way we will see major reductions in car use is if it is made much more expensive or more difficult (eg there's nowhere to park it if you use do it) to use the car.

The good burghers of Rotherham, Barnsley, Doncaster and Chesterfield must love you so, so much. Great way to kill off Sheffield city centre and drive business to surrounding towns. Truly you are a genius. Incredibly short-sighted but a genius nonetheless.

 

The (rapidly aging) population of hilly Sheffield can walk and cycle to town or use an unreliable bus, (which doesn't actually take them from very close to their house to their desired destination in numerous cases), or go by car  to somewhere else. No prize for guessing which it will be.

 

What's that you say? The other towns will be as stupid as Sheffield and destroy their business and retail centres by making them expensive and/or inaccessible to cars? You sure about that?

 

I'd put a good £20 on Chesterfield and the others rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect of all that business coming their way.