Delayed   461 #37 Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, lottiecass said: So singing religious songs should be compulsory? even having to change words in them to placate other religions, it's lunacy. Not at all but singing religious songs is a different matter compared to removing religious studies completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #38 Posted December 20, 2019 On 18/12/2019 at 11:55, Daven said: Christmas is a Christian celebration. Those of other faiths may learn more about the Christian faith by studying and maybe singing Christmas Carols but the words shouldn't be changed. Christmas is a Christian celebration to some, for many it is not. This is the case for myself and my family, Santa, Christmas trees and reindeer are much more relevant and are completely unrelated to the nativity.  However, I don't think religion is something you can legitimately apply in half measures (one of the reasons why I'm not a fan), if you're going to acknowledge that Jesus Christ was an actual person and the son of God (whilst simultaneously being God himself) then how on Earth could you justify changing traditional religious carols to omit identifying him as your "lord" ?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #39 Posted December 20, 2019 On 18/12/2019 at 09:12, BobOfRoth said: What are your views on this?  https://www.premier.org.uk/News/UK/Parents-outrage-as-school-tells-children-not-to-sing-Lord-in-Christmas-carol-classic  The words to some Christmas carols changed to be more inclusive to other faiths. Personally I feel if someone does not like Christmas carols then the answer is a simple one, dont sing them, dont go to the nativity play and so something else instead. Pandering to the PC brigade as usual .  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #40 Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Yay the usual Christmas is banned thread, Christmas is now complwte Edited December 20, 2019 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #41 Posted December 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, melthebell said: Yay the usual Christmas is banned thread, Christmas is now complwte ... and you can't call Easter eggs Easter eggs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #42 Posted December 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, RootsBooster said: ... and you can't call Easter eggs Easter eggs! Cadburys creme eggs? Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #43 Posted December 20, 2019 8 hours ago, RootsBooster said: Christmas is a Christian celebration to some, for many it is not. This is the case for myself and my family, Santa, Christmas trees and reindeer are much more relevant and are completely unrelated to the nativity.  However, I don't think religion is something you can legitimately apply in half measures (one of the reasons why I'm not a fan), if you're going to acknowledge that Jesus Christ was an actual person and the son of God (whilst simultaneously being God himself) then how on Earth could you justify changing traditional religious carols to omit identifying him as your "lord" ?  Well because not everyone does acknowledge it - but may still like to sing a Christmas related song with the other children in the class as part of the overall celebration.  they’re only little kids after all.    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo   96 #44 Posted December 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, makapaka said: Well because not everyone does acknowledge it - but may still like to sing a Christmas related song with the other children in the class as part of the overall celebration. Other people (myself included) may not resonate with the meaning / intent of the song; but consider it a bit of a liberty and quite insensitive to mess with something that is likely very meaningful to many people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Rollypolly   51 #45 Posted December 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Waldo said: Other people (myself included) may not resonate with the meaning / intent of the song; but consider it a bit of a liberty and quite insensitive to mess with something that is likely very meaningful to many people. Well said 😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #46 Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Waldo said: Other people (myself included) may not resonate with the meaning / intent of the song; but consider it a bit of a liberty and quite insensitive to mess with something that is likely very meaningful to many people. I’d say they were being over-sensitive and quite selfish to expect kids to be potentially marginalised in a class room on account of changing a song about a fairytale / story.  In fact - id say it was pretty weird. Edited December 20, 2019 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
francypants   441 #47 Posted December 20, 2019 If you do not agree with the words to a particular song/hymn/carol then don't sing THAT one. There are plenty of others to choose from.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo   96 #48 Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, makapaka said: I’d say they were being over-sensitive and quite selfish to expect kids to be potentially marginalised in a class room on account of changing a song about a fairytale / story.  In fact - id say it was pretty weird. They being the head teacher and possibly others, who decided to change the words of the song?  If so, yes I agree, it’s a bit messed up.  I suspect that’s not what you mean though, and that we clearly have different views on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...