General Election 2019 - Results Thread.

[alchresearch 213]

28 minutes ago, nightrider said:

It's also his supporters who would not listen. Supporters who are already today saying it's everyone else's fault except theirs. The Tories are going to have a free ride for years whilst people try to wrest the labour party back from his supporters.

Yep, they're out in force blaming:

 

Brexit
The MSM
The Lib Dems
Tony Blair
Alastair Campbell
Lord Adonis
Jewish voters
The electorate

[nightrider 13]

20 minutes ago, iansheff said:

Yes but I bet a lot of people who were Labour voters but wanted Brexit voted for the Tories, look at Bolsover for example.

Partly. A lot of labour voters also voted Tory because of Corbyn's views on foreign policy, IRA etc. Many others were repelled by labours socialist plans.

 

The only way forward for labour is to ditch Corbyn and momentum. Then move back to the centre ground and try again with a less socialist proposal combined with a leader who will be hard to attack via the media. They have five long years in the wilderness now to sort this out.

Edited December 13, 2019 by nightrider

[PRESLEY 1,222]

Didn't Labour try to ditch Corbyn some time ago but due to his arrogance he wouldn't stand down.   Im staunch Labour and always have been ,Corbyn is to blame for this disaster.

[iansheff 84]

1 minute ago, nightrider said:

Partly. A lot of labour voters also voted Tory because of Corbyn's views on foreign policy, IRA etc. Many others were repelled by labours socialist plans.

 

The only way forward for labour is to ditch Corbyn and momentum. Then move back to the centre ground and try again with a less socialist proposal combined with a leader who will be hard to attach via the media.

I never really expected any other result, the best I hoped for was  a hung parliament to at least have a little say in the running of the country, however now the Tories will just be able to push through whatever they like.

5 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

Didn't Labour try to ditch Corbyn some time ago but due to his arrogance he wouldn't stand down.   Im staunch Labour and always have been ,Corbyn is to blame for this disaster.

Corbyn was never a leader for me and his sitting on the fence over Brexit made it look like he was scared to upset the remainers and also the people who wanted Brexit. I don't believe members of the shadow cabinet such as Dianne Abbott inspired confidence in the electorate, I have no idea who I would want to replace Corbyn but if they don't get it right it will be a long time before any chance of getting back in power.

 

The lies Boris has told, avoiding interviews,  insulting the working class, his comments about women wearing burkhas looking like letterboxes, hope all the people expecting the £500 extra he promised from NI are prepared for the 5 year wait, I can't believe how people have ignored all his failings.

 

The LibDems, well Swinson  got what she deserved, for a party with the word democrat in its name to say we will scrap Brexit straight away ignoring the people who voted for Brexit was political suicide.

[Michael_W 11]

They have played identity politics for the last 15/20 years hunting for votes, then showed their own hypocrisy with the anti semitism stuff, look at the votes in London and the big cities still predominantly Labour, however they neglected and forgot about the large numbers of white working class up and down the country, some even called them priveleged, then called them bigoted and racist for voting for Brexit ..... I could go on but really I would probably be wasting my time on many, they clearly think their intentions are good some are evident on this forum .....  but this was predictable to some degree, I have said it on here many times, and no I'm not gloating, I'm a traditional ex Labour voter and ex trade union member for over 30 years of my working life, I also know the opinions I have about Corbyn, the left and the modern Labour party have been shared by many others like me for a while !

[PRESLEY 1,222]

Anybody  else in the Labour party apart from Corbyn would have slammed Johnson in this election.   

[PRESLEY 1,222]

Shows how bad Corbyn is when his opponent mislead the Queen, Parogued goverment and has told endless lies.  Johnson will only last one term. 

[Colin Foster 70]

Was surprised to see Labour hold Hallam after the farce with O'Mara. Tories came third but not that far behind Lib Dems.

 

I suspect a lot of Hallam voters who would normally vote Lib Dem to keep Labour out voted Tory. I reluctantly voted Lib Dem as much as I disagree with their position on Brexit, but knew voting Tory would let Labour in just like 2017.

[alandrea0 16]

17 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

Shows how bad Corbyn is when his opponent mislead the Queen, Parogued goverment and has told endless lies.  Johnson will only last one term. 

He might not last one term, when Brexit back fires..

 

 

[PRESLEY 1,222]

8 minutes ago, alandrea0 said:

He might not last one term, when Brexit back fires..

 

 

  yeh! Good point.

[Anna B 1,401]

2 hours ago, Padders said:

Chin up Anna, its not all bad...

Lets wait and see how the Tories mess things up.

Unfortunately, the Tories 'messing up' is going to hurt people so I hope you're wrong. I hope they've learned something, but I doubt it.

[Padders 2,840]

6 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Unfortunately, the Tories 'messing up' is going to hurt people so I hope you're wrong. I hope they've learned something, but I doubt it.

Your right Anna... the Tories have made some unbelievable promises, when they fail to deliver the Labour voters will come flooding back..

But they won, and I hope they make a good job, though I very much doubt it given their past record.

Labour need a massive overhaul to get back in power, I'm a lifelong Socialist, but this must be the weakest Labour party I have ever known..

I'm afraid Jeremy wasn't good enough.