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On 17/12/2019 at 15:12, West 77 said:

The BBC had a film crew in a Maltby charity shop on Friday morning and everyone they interviewed had voted Tory.  Their former MP was Caroline Flint who I think is the best female to lead the Labour Party.  Caroline Flint is the only former Labour MP I have sympathy for who lost their seat.

 

The Labour party could do worse than choosing Stephen Kinnock as their next leader.

What about Dennis Skinner? He  was savagely betrayed by the folk in Bolsover he'd devoted his life to helping. He even gave a years wages to Miners Welfare Funds to support the strikers.

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53 minutes ago, 26b-6 said:

What about Dennis Skinner? He  was savagely betrayed by the folk in Bolsover he'd devoted his life to helping. He even gave a years wages to Miners Welfare Funds to support the strikers.

Swings and roundabouts as Skinner got his money from the public in the first place.

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8 hours ago, apelike said:

Swings and roundabouts as Skinner got his money from the public in the first place.

You could partially make that claim of just about anyone. Tesco make plenty of profit from public service workers, for example.

 

The origin of Skinner’s money is irrelevant in this case. What he chose to do with it is much more important.

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25 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

You could partially make that claim of just about anyone. Tesco make plenty of profit from public service workers, for example.

 

The origin of Skinner’s money is irrelevant in this case. What he chose to do with it is much more important.

You could also argue that public sector workers are paid from the taxation of everyone else.

 

i do agree with you regarding Dennis though, a rare breed of politician, an honest one.

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10 hours ago, 26b-6 said:

What about Dennis Skinner? He  was savagely betrayed by the folk in Bolsover he'd devoted his life to helping. He even gave a years wages to Miners Welfare Funds to support the strikers.

“Eaten bread is soon forgotten”.

 

And never sooner than by the entitled sort.

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11 hours ago, 26b-6 said:

What about Dennis Skinner? He  was savagely betrayed by the folk in Bolsover he'd devoted his life to helping. He even gave a years wages to Miners Welfare Funds to support the strikers.

I’m not a socialist and disagreed with a lot of his  politics. But I liked the way he went about things. He wasn’t afraid to argue his case against anyone whether it was the conservatives or Labour you couldn’t help but admire him. Parliament will be a poorer place without him.

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12 hours ago, 26b-6 said:

What about Dennis Skinner? He  was savagely betrayed by the folk in Bolsover he'd devoted his life to helping. He even gave a years wages to Miners Welfare Funds to support the strikers.

The winning Tory candidate in Bolsover said that there wasn't a street he walked down in Bolsover  where someone didn't tell him how Dennis Skinner had helped them.  It wasn't the folk in Bolsover who betrayed Dennis Skinner because it was the Labour Party who betrayed leave voters which is why they lost so many traditional Labour seats.  The folk in Bolsover carried on supporting Dennis Skinner for many years after he had told everyone a man should retire at 65 to make way for a younger man.

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15 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The winning Tory candidate in Bolsover said that there wasn't a street he walked down in Bolsover  where someone didn't tell him how Dennis Skinner had helped them.  It wasn't the folk in Bolsover who betrayed Dennis Skinner because it was the Labour Party who betrayed leave voters which is why they lost so many traditional Labour seats.  The folk in Bolsover carried on supporting Dennis Skinner for many years after he had told everyone a man should retire at 65 to make way for a younger man.

Totally agree.

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19 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The folk in Bolsover carried on supporting Dennis Skinner for many years after he had told everyone a man should retire at 65 to make way for a younger man.

Dennis Skinner is 87 and he was still working prior to Dec 12th

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6 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Dennis Skinner is 87 and he was still working prior to Dec 12th

Exactly my point.  Dennis Skinner said every man should retire at 65 before he himself was 65.  

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Just now, West 77 said:

Exactly my point.  Dennis Skinner said every man should retire at 65 before he himself was 65.  

He does seem to be a more genuine person than many other MPs, maybe that is why he lasted so long.

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Sorry to say, he was past it. At 87 it's unrealistic to think he could do the hard yards of a local MP. He cast a long shadow - for better or worse - over bolsover and equally for better or worse, that's going to change. A fair chunk of his constituents weren't even born when the pits were open, and his record then wouldn't sway young voters, and arguably, why should it.

 

NE Derbyshire didn't burst into flames when we elected a Tory MP, bolsover won't either (although I'm struggling to find positives).

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