General Election 2019 - Results Thread.

[sheffbag 227]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Any Labour leader who comes out in support  of the people is going to get a total roasting from the powerful elite who control everything including the media. Labour Politician on lunchtime TV programme says she never got as far as discussing Labour policy as she spent all her time trying to constantly correct the personal lies about Jeremy Corbyn peddled in the media but believed by the voters.  

Every Labour leader since the 70s has received the same treatment; Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock, Ed Milliband and reached its peak with the villification of Corbyn.

Only Tony Blair survived because he was the elite's puppet, and carried on from where the Conservatives left off, carrying out many of their policies. He's now an establishment multi-millionaire. . . .

Kinnock??? - Just tell us Anna how much Kinnock has pocketed from the EU and his six pensions with his wife.  Good old Labour Neil with his multi-million pound gravy train from the establishment. For the people and all that. 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2019 by sheffbag

[Beauchiefs 10]

On 13/12/2019 at 11:56, Colin Foster said:

Was surprised to see Labour hold Hallam after the farce with O'Mara. Tories came third but not that far behind Lib Dems.

 

I suspect a lot of Hallam voters who would normally vote Lib Dem to keep Labour out voted Tory. I reluctantly voted Lib Dem as much as I disagree with their position on Brexit, but knew voting Tory would let Labour in just like 2017.

Surely its the student vote that gives us an un representative MP  for the area.

[RollingJ 2,037]

28 minutes ago, Beauchiefs said:

Surely its the student vote that gives us an un representative MP  for the area.

Exactly.

[sheffbag 227]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

The Labour party could do worse than choosing Stephen Kinnock as their next leader.

Maybe so but Anna was on about how Tony Blair was an establishment multi millionaire and holding Kinnock up as a true red when Neil has taken millions from "the establishment" himself

[Anna B 1,414]

2 hours ago, sheffbag said:

Kinnock??? - Just tell us Anna how much Kinnock has pocketed from the EU and his six pensions with his wife.  Good old Labour Neil with his multi-million pound gravy train from the establishment. For the pTrueeople and all that. 

 

 

Yes, he started well, he was a worthy Leader and a good orator but also got the anti-Labour treatment. Maybe it made him cynical when he lost.  He went on to join the corrupt gravy train that is the European Union and made a mint out of it. 

Edited December 17, 2019 by Anna B

[dave_the_m 61]

What has Neil Kinnock having six pensions got to do with anything? People who have more than one job over their lifetime tend to accumulate multiple pensions, but that doesn't mean that they retire with six times as much money as is reasonable. It means each pension is only worth typically a sixth of full retirement value.

 

Now you may wish to argue that EU civil service  salaries and pensions are overly generous, but even if so I doubt that they compare with what people in senior management positions at large corporations get.

[Anna B 1,414]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

The BBC had a film crew in a Maltby charity shop on Friday morning and everyone they interviewed had voted Tory.  Their former MP was Caroline Flint who I think is the best female to lead the Labour Party.  Caroline Flint is the only former Labour MP I have sympathy for who lost their seat.

 

The Labour party could do worse than choosing Stephen Kinnock as their next leader.

Stephen Kinnock has said he isn't standing. (Not that that means he won't...) However he is more an heir to Blair than to Corbyn.

 

10 minutes ago, dave_the_m said:

What has Neil Kinnock having six pensions got to do with anything? People who have more than one job over their lifetime tend to accumulate multiple pensions, but that doesn't mean that they retire with six times as much money as is reasonable. It means each pension is only worth typically a sixth of full retirement value.

 

Now you may wish to argue that EU civil service  salaries and pensions are overly generous, but even if so I doubt that they compare with what people in senior management positions at large corporations get.

Except that senior management are funded from company profits, civil servants are funded by tax payers.

Edited December 17, 2019 by Anna B

[retep 68]

The Kinnock's , sounds a bit iffy,

 

"Kinnock’s £10 MILLION Pay Off and the EU SECRET BANK ACCOUNTS"

http://christophereverard.co.uk/kinnocks-10-million-pay-off-and-the-eu-secret-bank-accounts/

[Anna B 1,414]

16 minutes ago, retep said:

The Kinnock's , sounds a bit iffy,

 

"Kinnock’s £10 MILLION Pay Off and the EU SECRET BANK ACCOUNTS"

http://christophereverard.co.uk/kinnocks-10-million-pay-off-and-the-eu-secret-bank-accounts/

Kinnock Junior is not a patch on his Dad.

[Mossway 15]

9 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Kinnock Junior is not a patch on his Dad.

We must hope he’ll never make such an idiot of himself like his dad did on that so-called Sheffield Wednesday speech in ‘92 !

Edited December 17, 2019 by Mossway
Adding ‘92

[Anna B 1,414]

2 minutes ago, Mossway said:

We must hope he’ll never make such an idiot of himself like his dad did on that so-called Sheffield Wednesday speech !

Don't know it. Do you have a link?

 

[Anna B 1,414]

9 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Boris has just won a 80 seat majority by being a bit iffy.  Recent history has proven that iffy people such as Donald Trump and Boris Johnson can win elections.

Duplicitous.

 

If you're prepared to lie through your teeth you can get away with murder these days. Just lie your way into power and when you're elected nobody can do a thing about it. 

 

What have we become. . . .?