London Terror Attack 29/11/2019

[Obelix]

12 hours ago, Ontarian1981 said:

 With your level of naievity, it is you that thinks like a child, not me. The solution is a separate law for terrorists, like other countries, how hard is that to understand?

You think that the UK is naive to terrorism but we've been dealing with it since the Troubles. You treat them as criminals - not like some special people.

[hobinfoot]

3 minutes ago, Obelix said:

You think that the UK is naive to terrorism but we've been dealing with it since the Troubles. You treat them as criminals - not like some special people.

I’ve got to disagree a terrorist by definition isn’t like other people and therefore has to be treated differently. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, melthebell said:

do you need telling everything? think for yourself, look at what they follow, its certainly not a moderate form of islam, it has a lot of similarities with right wing extremists (locking people up, killing people they dont like, agree with), a fondness for millitias and weaponary, strict adherance to dress codes and how people should think and behave (particularly women), a dislike of gays and trans people.

 

etc etc etc

I disagree.

For starters the highest number of deaths by Islamists are usually Muslim!

 

Look at the victims of Al Qaeda or ISIS

They kill Muslims more than non Muslims.

[melthebell]

1 minute ago, Mr Fisk said:

I disagree.

For starters the highest number of deaths by Islamists are usually Muslim!

 

Look at the victims of Al Qaeda or ISIS

They kill Muslims more than non Muslims.

but they see them as?......................................

 

 

you could also see that backs it up, right wingers dont like muslims either....more than jews these days

Edited December 1, 2019 by melthebell

[Branyy]

5 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

I disagree.

For starters the highest number of deaths by Islamists are usually Muslim!

 

Look at the victims of Al Qaeda or ISIS

They kill Muslims more than non Muslims.

Not in UK. Or Europe.

 

Anyway, this all points to the fact that all of this left/right labeling is pointless.

Edited December 1, 2019 by Branyy

[PRESLEY]

The Lesson here is, once a terrorist is locked up, chuck the key away.  

[Bargepole23]

45 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

I’ve got to disagree a terrorist by definition isn’t like other people and therefore has to be treated differently. 

A murderer is, by the same logic, unlike other people, as is a rapist. All criminals.

[Branyy]

27 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

A murderer is, by the same logic, unlike other people, as is a rapist. All criminals.

Sure, and you have various sentences for various crimes. What's your point?

[Top Cats Hat]

1 hour ago, Branyy said:

Anyway, this all points to the fact that all of this left/right labeling is pointless.

Not pointless at all. To defeat your enemy you first have to understand them and their motivation. 

 

Although it’s very easy to scream and shout and call for them to be locked up forever, all you are ultimately doing is prolonging the problem.

[Ontarian1981]

17 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Might have avoided the deaths of est 70-80 million people if we did. 

 

Now stop behaving like a child and changing the subject when you run out of coherent argument.   Back on topic with you. 

 

You have been asked at least twice now what your solution to the problem would be.  Its obvious that you totally disagree with rehabilitation for such offences.   It is also blindingly obvious that locking up and leaving people to rot is simply not realistic in view of the already overpopulation, conflicts with human rights laws and a reported £63k per year price tag for each incarceration.    So I ask again, what would your solution be?

There are certain criminals who cannot possibly be rehabilitated