Anna B 1,365 #13 Posted November 15, 2019 I've never seen anybody so uncomfortable as Boris Johnson trying to talk to ordinary people. Yorkshire folk don't mince their words - maybe Boris learnt something. But I doubt it. . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ontarian1981 10 #14 Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Anna B said: I've never seen anybody so uncomfortable as Boris Johnson trying to talk to ordinary people. Yorkshire folk don't mince their words - maybe Boris learnt something. But I doubt it. . . I doubt anyone from Yorkshire ever went to Eton, he probably thought they were Martians or something.LOL Boris epitomises the upper class twit of the year, he even looks like Chapman from Monty Python. Edited November 15, 2019 by Ontarian1981 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 771 #15 Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, gaz 786 said: What would have happened if the floods that devastated South Yorkshire happened in a stockbroker belt down south? Would the government have been as slow to help out I think not 😡 Think back to the aftermath of the 2007 flood in Yorkshire when we had a Lab Govt? I distinctly remember tv reports, catching up with flooded home owners who were promised financial help by Lab, still waiting for that help to arrive many, many months later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TomMix 0 #16 Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: You got anything to support that? The floods happened just 7 days ago. The army is deployed, there's been emergency committees involved, the prime minister has visited the scene and steps are being sorted out for emergency funding. I really don't know what more you expect to happen in less than a week. This whole North-South thing is just horse crap. It could have happened outside the pm's front door but there's very little more that could or should have been done in the time frame. The p.m. is hardly going to be able to stand there and stop the tide physically is he? Neither is he realistically expected to stand there for hours and pumping out water, carrying supplies and piling up sandbags for the residents. Things get done in London. Things get sorted from his office. Things get decided in his cabinet room. Not standing in his waders pointing at things and putting on a sad face for the cameras. Just because Corbyn has wound up the PR machine to max and done a load of electioneering photo ops doesn't mean that the current government hasn't done anything they should have. The media and woe is me talking heads are just sensationalising and whipping up hysteria to get the numbers up and sell more papers. I have been flooded out of my home in the past , taken to safety on a police boat , No one could have stopped the floods that engulfed our home it came like lightning , it went ,we got our buckets and mops looked at each other and got on with sorting out , no help from any one , we survived. As an after thought we did rise our lower floors by over a foot after that flood over twenty years ago and the water never reached enough to flood in again . Edited November 15, 2019 by TomMix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch 206 #17 Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Its interesting to see the flood defence barrier banks protecting Fishlake were in place over a hundred years ago: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.6121&lon=-1.0047&layers=6&right=BingHyb Its obviously been a wet place for a long time, all the drainage channels in evidence. I wonder how many of them had been cleared before autumn though? And management mistakes caused flooding in Worksop: England flooding: Worksop sluice gate delay 'made flooding worse' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-50406938 Quote Council officials and residents in Worksop repeatedly asked the Canal and River Trust (CRT) to alleviate the flooding by opening the sluice gate. The trust refused to do so and the gate was eventually opened by a firefighter several hours later. The CRT said the sluice gate was in a building "deemed unsafe" for its workers to enter, and it had reported the condition of the building to the council on 16 October. Edited November 15, 2019 by alchresearch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch 206 #18 Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Baron99 said: Think back to the aftermath of the 2007 flood in Yorkshire when we had a Lab Govt? I distinctly remember tv reports, catching up with flooded home owners who were promised financial help by Lab, still waiting for that help to arrive many, many months later. Yep. From 2007: New Labour ignored flood warnings http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/issue/497/2669/24-07-2007/new-labour-ignored-flood-warnings And in 2017: £15million EU flood fund spent on paying off Labour fine https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/16756529.15million-eu-flood-fund-spent-on-paying-off-labour-fine/ Quote The European Union has given the UK €60 million to help flood-hit areas but it will actually receive just £500,000. The EU Solidarity Fund retrospectively reimburses members states of the EU for 2.5 per cent of the direct costs associated with the damage incurred by floods. The Government will use £14.5 million of that money to pay a fine which it faces due to the Labour government misspending money which it was allocated under the EU Solidarity Fund following floods in Southern England in 2007. Money was spent on projects for which it was not eligible. Edited November 15, 2019 by alchresearch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bargepole23 337 #19 Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, alchresearch said: Its interesting to see the flood defence barrier banks protecting Fishlake were in place over a hundred years ago: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.6121&lon=-1.0047&layers=6&right=BingHyb Its obviously been a wet place for a long time, all the drainage channels in evidence. I wonder how many of them had been cleared before autumn though? And management mistakes caused flooding in Worksop: England flooding: Worksop sluice gate delay 'made flooding worse' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-50406938 Worksop council leader uses hindsight to apportion blame in floods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 10 #20 Posted November 15, 2019 8 hours ago, alchresearch said: Its interesting to see the flood defence barrier banks protecting Fishlake were in place over a hundred years ago: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.6121&lon=-1.0047&layers=6&right=BingHyb Its obviously been a wet place for a long time, all the drainage channels in evidence. I wonder how many of them had been cleared before autumn though? And management mistakes caused flooding in Worksop: England flooding: Worksop sluice gate delay 'made flooding worse' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-50406938 Even if these drainage channels had been in pristine condition, there is no way they would have coped with a months rain in one day. "There are eight pumps in separate locations in the Fishlake area, moving 50 million litres of water per hour to help protect homes and businesses. The pumps have removed 1.25 million tonnes of water in the past 24 hours and this has helped to reduce water levels in the village from 2 metres to 0.3 metres - a decrease of 85%." Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob 984 #21 Posted November 15, 2019 8 hours ago, alchresearch said: Yep. From 2007: New Labour ignored flood warnings http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/issue/497/2669/24-07-2007/new-labour-ignored-flood-warnings And in 2017: £15million EU flood fund spent on paying off Labour fine https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/16756529.15million-eu-flood-fund-spent-on-paying-off-labour-fine/ No no no you can't be coming out with facts like that. It's all the evil tories fault init. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TomMix 0 #22 Posted November 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Bargepole23 said: Worksop council leader uses hindsight to apportion blame in floods. Building on flood plains is just stupid , But if they have to then make sure that he foundations and ground floors are high enough to escape any maximum flood hight ,its common sense I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Janus 28 #23 Posted November 15, 2019 I don't understand how these developers getting the planning consent on the flood plains-must be quite a few brown envelopes passed around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 577 #24 Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, TomMix said: Building on flood plains is just stupid , But if they have to then make sure that he foundations and ground floors are high enough to escape any maximum flood hight ,its common sense I think. Nearly all Sheffield's steel industry was built on the flood plain of the Don due to the vast amounts of water needed in the steel making process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...