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This is NOT to become a second Brexit thread.

Thank you.

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3 hours ago, L00b said:

Seems a bit quieter in here, as the Brexit Party  ex-PPC are tearing into Farage, and as the source of the Labour online hack has been confirmed to be in Russia whilst Johnson continues to sit abusively on that Russian report.

Well according to the BBC only 5 hours ago Gordon Corera of the BBC has been told that Monday's attack was not linked to any state despite a Labour source claiming that the attacks came from computers in Russia and Brazil.

 

The BBC security correspondent said he had been told the first attack was a low-level incident - not a large-scale and sophisticated attack. According to many security experts an initial government investigation suggests there is no evidence to indicate it was carried by state actors, so hardly confirmed! Labour have also been accused of "hamming up" the incident for political gain.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50388879

 

https://tech.newstatesman.com/security/labour-party-cyber-attack

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, CaptainSwing said:

All true of course, but at this point in time it's the LibDems who have control.  They have to choose between (a) enabling Brexit for the sake of preventing any possibility of a Labour government, or (b) enabling the best chance of averting Brexit, at the cost of co-operating with Labour.

 

If they choose (a), that will prove that their main priority is opposing Labour.  If they choose (b), it will prove that their main priority is the one they say it is, namely averting Brexit.

The Lib Dems would much rather have Brexit than a Socialist Jeremy Corbyn prime minister and government.

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4 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The Lib Dems would much rather have Brexit than a Socialist Jeremy Corbyn prime minister and government.

This might pass as truth among the massed rank of the Monk Bretton Civil Servant for Marxist / Brexit / Faragism but yet to see any evidence for it anywhere else.

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Jeremy Corbyn says the Labour party has suffered a serious Cyber Attack.

What a dirty fight this is turning out to be.

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1 hour ago, CaptainSwing said:

I see that one LibDem constituency party, Canterbury, has decided to do just that - much to the fury of LibDem HQ.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/12/lib-dem-candidate-stands-aside-to-avoid-nightmare-of-tory-win

It has been confirmed that the Lib Dems will be fielding another candidate  in Canterbury. Jo Swinson believes that It is vital that Labour does not form the next government, which for her would be worse than Brexit.

 

Paul Brand

@PaulBrandITV

NEW: Serious unrest in Canterbury Lib Dems over national party’s decision to find a candidate to replace

@ThatTimWalker

, who stood down to give

@RosieDuffield1

a chance to unite the Remain vote and beat the Conservatives. 1/

8:54 PM · Nov 12, 2019

 

 

Lib Dems only exist to stop a Corbyn government. Yellow Tories want their ministerial cars back.

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3 hours ago, Anna B said:

Jeremy Corbyn says the Labour party has suffered a serious Cyber Attack.

What a dirty fight this is turning out to be.

And other sources which know a bit about IT say different.

 

'Sophisticated' cyber attack on UK Labour Party platforms was probably just a DDoS, says official

'Really very everyday' – report

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/12/labour_party_reports_cyber_attack/

 

And may have in fact being self inflicted:

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"Today was the deadline for Labour CLPs to get their freepost printing done.

 

Could it be that a last-minute scramble has overwhelmed Labour’s servers? [...]

 

True a lot of people logging on can seem like a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack or it could just be a lot of people trying to log on before the deadline."

 

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11 hours ago, apelike said:

Well according to the BBC only 5 hours ago Gordon Corera of the BBC has been told that Monday's attack was not linked to any state despite a Labour source claiming that the attacks came from computers in Russia and Brazil.

 

The BBC security correspondent said he had been told the first attack was a low-level incident - not a large-scale and sophisticated attack. According to many security experts an initial government investigation suggests there is no evidence to indicate it was carried by state actors, so hardly confirmed! Labour have also been accused of "hamming up" the incident for political gain.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50388879

 

https://tech.newstatesman.com/security/labour-party-cyber-attack

 

 

 

I don’t consider the BBC a reliable source of information these days. Quite the contrary.  

 

Not quite on the basement level of The Express, sure. But comparable to the Telegraph, so that’s saying some I guess.

 

Thanks for the effort all the same.

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43 minutes ago, L00b said:

I don’t consider the BBC a reliable source of information these days. Quite the contrary.  

 

Not quite on the basement level of The Express, sure. But comparable to the Telegraph, so that’s saying some I guess.

 

Thanks for the effort all the same.

I completely agree.  The beeb have still not apologised for Fiona Bruce's misrepresentation of the truth about the legality of Vote Leave's campaign on Question Time.

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4 hours ago, Anna B said:

Jeremy Corbyn says the Labour party has suffered a serious Cyber Attack.

What a dirty fight this is turning out to be.

The attack could apparently have been done by anyone who has the expertise from their home. You seem to be pointing the finger at Labours political opponents when there is no evidence for this.

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2 hours ago, L00b said:

I don’t consider the BBC a reliable source of information these days. Quite the contrary.  

Same here, especially with that Boris remembrance day farce, and lets not forget the Tony Foulds business where there was no fact checking.  Next thing you've got a massive parade and flypast.

 

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2 hours ago, L00b said:

I don’t consider the BBC a reliable source of information these days. Quite the contrary.  

 

Not quite on the basement level of The Express, sure. But comparable to the Telegraph, so that’s saying some I guess.

 

Thanks for the effort all the same.

As I cannot get any information to confirm what you have claimed in your previous post can you now say where you got your information from otherwise it will just be the usual fake news? You diss the BBC so can you now provide a link confirming it was Russia? Or did you get your information from Twitter like many on here seem to?

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5 hours ago, CaptainSwing said:

I see that one LibDem constituency party, Canterbury, has decided to do just that - much to the fury of LibDem HQ.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/12/lib-dem-candidate-stands-aside-to-avoid-nightmare-of-tory-win

The aggressive totalitarian leadership of Jo Swinsons Lib Dems is now taking disciplinary action against Tim Walker for refusing to split the Remain vote at the coming general election.

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