General Election 12 December.

[Mister Gee 822]

3 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Listening to Boris’s electioneering today he is promising big spending on Health,Schools,Police ,Social Care.

This against over £70billion cost of Brexit so far and forecast reduction of GDP as a result of Brexit over the next 15 years.

Believe this man at your peril.

It is a Brexit GA,and how the majority of the population can anticipate any benefits defies logic.

 

All the things the Tories have spent the last nine years slashing.

Edited October 30, 2019 by Mister Gee

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33 minutes ago, NERVY-OWL said:

.Boris will probably get my vote but I'll have a good look at Brexit partys manifesto aswell before deciding

A ‘hard Brexit’ pretty much sums up Farage’s manifesto.

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1 hour ago, hobinfoot said:

I can’t see anything but a conservative win looking at the opposition. I think they will get an overall majority not a big one but a workable one.

Early days, but this is roughly my thoughts too.

 

Depends on what the brexit party do though. I think the majority might be very slight, or no majority and Brexit take seats, they'd have to join up, and only these who might join the Torys.

 

I think LibDem and Labour will split each others votes and hence not enough to out the Torys.

 

Obviously wouldn't happen, but if they (LibLab) made a pact pre-election, they could potentially walk it.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by *_ash_*

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20 minutes ago, *_ash_* said:

Obviously wouldn't happen, but if they (LibLab) made a pact pre-election, they could potentially walk it.

Of course it would be much easier for Labour to adopt a Remain stance and ditch Brexiteer Corbyn, then they wouldn’t have to rely on any other party for support in forming a government.

 

As it is, the best that Labour can hope for is a coalition with the SNP, Lib Dems and the Greens which of course will come at a price.

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13 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Of course it would be much easier for Labour to adopt a Remain stance and ditch Brexiteer Corbyn, then they wouldn’t have to rely on any other party for support in forming a government.

 

As it is, the best that Labour can hope for is a coalition with the SNP, Lib Dems and the Greens which of course will come at a price.

top point - It's possibly the easiest potential win for any opposition in history, and yet Labour have stuck with him, and so it's unlikely that they will win. If this was 20 odd years ago, and Blair was the leader in opposition, this would unquestionably be as big/or bigger a win than he managed then.

 

All I can say is thank ****!

 

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bottom point - yes, I posted elsewhere that - at the moment and early days so anything can happen! - but I think the outcome is most likely small maj Tory, or hung parliament with either Tory/Brexit coalition, or Lab LibDem SNP coalition. (with others joining in with some promises. SNP will join if they adopt some form of ScotRef2 addition to the deal, like a shot!)

 

 

 

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Looking at the long list of more moderate and liberal Tory MPs standing down in December, the post-election Parliamentary Conservative Party will be much closer to Jacob Rees-Mogg than Ken Clarke.

 

Just heard that Nicky Morgan has stepped down too!

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3 hours ago, Car Boot said:

The austerity agenda was also thanks to the Liberal Democrats. The voting record of the MPs of this party is horrific. For example, Liberal Democrat Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer Ed Davey.

 

He voted 9 times to REDUCE the housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (Liberal Democrats hate the poor having a spare room).

He voted 5 times AGAINST raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices.

He voted 24 times for a REDUCTION in spending on welfare benefits. 

He voted 7 times AGAINST spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed. 

 

14 times he voted AGAINST a banker’s bonus tax.

He has consistently voted AGAINST an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax).

 

Lovely people these pro-austerity Liberal Democrats. They still want ministerial cars and will sell out anybody and anything to get them.

I think it's the Tories we need to be more worried about - they have been in control of the austerity agenda since 2010. Your preference to attack the EU and Lib Dems rather than the Tories is puzzling to say the least for a self avowed socialist.

 

They will also attack terms and conditions, health and safety (what they like to call "red tape") if they win a majority.

[steved32 55]

Vote for Boris?

 

Would you vote for Barney Rubble, which is BJ and his Stone Age instincts?

 

[janie48 96]

19 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

This.^^^^

 

For starters, I'd guess some students would have finished for Christmas - where are they voting? Remember about 10 years back and the weather we had? Chuck Christmas in as well.....

 

I'm going for Labour. I don't really want to but in my constituency it's a marginally better option than the local fascist made good. I just hope its a normal and not some momentum plant.

Yes I hadn't thought about the students being on holiday, many of them won't get chance to vote. 

I'm undecided about who to vote for this time. 

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3 hours ago, NERVY-OWL said:

No matter how they spin this it will be a Brexit election. I'm not sure it will leave a majority though to sort Brexit out one way or another. I know two people so far that have said they don't see any point in voting after all that's gone off with Brexit and in sure there will be others.

 

Boris will probably get my vote but I'll have a good look at Brexit partys manifesto aswell before deciding

You do realise you can't actually vote for Johnson unless you are registered in his constituency don't you?.

But if you're happy with all the years of austerity and food banks you stick your cross next to the local Tory candidate... You just might help them keep their deposit. 

[janie48 96]

14 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

It's not ideal but needs to be done to get rid of the rogue dishonest Parliament.  A Tory working majority will be the best Christmas present for our country.

We've had quite enough of the Tories, time for a change of government. 

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2 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

with either Tory/Brexit coalition,

Do you seriously think that Farage will get any seats at all, never mind enough to be in the mix when it comes to a coalition?