Lockdoctor   10 #37 Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, janie48 said: Holding a General Election just before Christmas is absolute madness there will be a poor turnout, and many people won't welcome political leaflets posted at the same time as their Christmas cards.  It's not ideal but needs to be done to get rid of the rogue dishonest Parliament. A Tory working majority will be the best Christmas present for our country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #38 Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dardandec said: Lib Dems all the way for me. As someone said on the consequence tread, they are hard to stomach and I somewhat agree with that, but I like their stance on the Brexit farce.  Don't like Labour's tax strategies. Wouldn't vote for Farige's clown show if they paid me a million quid, Green's? I don't think they could do enough damage.  I don't want a Tory majority so that's the only way I can go.  You are aware that Jo Swinson, the pro-austerity Liberal Democrat Leader, has absolutely no regrets about her party being a part of the coalition government? A coalition government whose cuts to services and living standards many Remainers hold responsible for the Leave vote winning in the June 2016 referendum.   Lib Dem/Tory austerity policies shrunk the UK economy by over £100 billion. FACT.  Lib Dem/Tory austerity policies have led to 130,000 preventable deaths. FACT.  As Employment Minister Jo Swinson reversed workers rights (extending the qualifying period for unfair dismissal to 2 years and introduced charges of up to £1,200 for attending an employment tribunal, to prevent the poor having access to justice) and wanted to freeze and cut the minimum wage in the event of an economic downturn.  The Liberal Democrats claim that Brexit will hurt the poorest. What we have seen so far is that it is the Liberal Democrats who hurt the poorest in their greed for ministerial cars. Edited October 30, 2019 by Car Boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell   234 #39 Posted October 30, 2019 The polls are already doing there prediction on the election, but how accurate are they going to be on this one.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #40 Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, hauxwell said: The polls are already doing there prediction on the election, but how accurate are they going to be on this one. Polls at the moment are entirely pointless as there will be more mind changing and party swapping than in any previous election. Also until Farage declares that he is running, there are many Leave votes going begging.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #41 Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Car Boot said: You are aware that Jo Swinson, the Liberal Democrat Leader, has absolutely no regrets about her party being a part of the coalition government? A coalition government whose cuts to services and living standards many Remainers hold responsible for the Leave vote winning in the June 2016 referendum.   Lib Dem/Tory austerity policies shrunk the UK economy by over £100 billion. FACT.  Lib Dem/Tory austerity policies have led to 130,000 preventable deaths. FACT.  As Employment Minister Jo Swinson reversed workers rights (extending the qualifying period for unfair dismissal to 2 years and introduced charges of up to £1,200 for attending an employment tribunal, to prevent the poor having access to justice) and wanted to freeze and cut the minimum wage in the event of an economic downturn.  The Liberal Democrats claim that Brexit will hurt the poorest. What we have seen so far is that it is the Liberal Democrats who hurt the poorest in their greed for ministerial cars. Should've thought about that, pushing thousands of people towards them in your quest for your nonsense brexit. Whereas your socialist Labour are still sort of on the fence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #42 Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, melthebell said: Should've thought about that, pushing thousands of people towards them in your quest for your nonsense brexit. Whereas your socialist Labour are still sort of on the fence It's no coincidence that the pro-austerity Lib Dems are fanatical supporters of the pro-austerity EU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   26 #43 Posted October 30, 2019 9 hours ago, lottiecass said: leaders make a big difference to the result of general elections , boris and farage are popular, Corbyn is not. how come if farage is so popular he has never been elected? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #44 Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, banjodeano said: how come if farage is so popular he has never been elected? Farage is a one issue politician and is popular because he has a lot of support regarding that one issue. It's very hard to win a seat at the Westminster Parliament when you don't represent one of the main political parties. Independent candidates also rarely win seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell   234 #45 Posted October 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Polls at the moment are entirely pointless as there will be more mind changing and party swapping than in any previous election. Also until Farage declares that he is running, there are many Leave votes going begging.   I think you could be right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #46 Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Car Boot said: It's no coincidence that the pro-austerity Lib Dems are fanatical supporters of the pro-austerity EU. How is the EU pro-austerity, exactly?  Seems you never heard of e.g. Horizon 2020. Not surprising in the least, mind. Edited October 30, 2019 by L00b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   206 #47 Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Car Boot said:  A coalition government whose cuts to services and living standards many Remainers hold responsible for the Leave vote winning in the June 2016 referendum.  The thing is, whoever won in 2010 would have had to enforce austerity measures.  Quote Alistair Darling admitted tonight that Labour's planned cuts in public spending will be "deeper and tougher" than Margaret Thatcher's in the 1980s, as the country's leading experts on tax and spending warned that Britain faces "two parliaments of pain" to repair the black hole in the state's finances.  Alistair Darling: we will cut deeper than Margaret Thatcher https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/mar/25/alistair-darling-cut-deeper-margaret-thatcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #48 Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, banjodeano said: how come if farage is so popular he has never been elected? He has been repeatedly elected as an MEP.  He is popular because people are either gullible, or ignorant, or disinterested, or all of these attributes together. Hence his repeat election as an MEP, despite his EU Parliamentary record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...