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So the establishment who are remain, passes a judgment that surprises no one. Democracy is now officially dead in the UK. RIP democracy, 17.4 million people have been betrayed by traitors and quislings. They cannot know or understand what they have done.

 

Angel1.

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27 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Not okay for government to ignore parliament.

 

Perfectly okay for parliament to ignore the will of the people.

Sovereignty vests in Parliament, not in British subjects: there's no such thing as "will of the people" in British constitutional law. Only in populist haranguing.

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2 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

So the establishment who are remain, passes a judgment that surprises no one. Democracy is now officially dead in the UK. RIP democracy, 17.4 million people have been betrayed by traitors and quislings. They cannot know or understand what they have done.

 

Angel1.

No - democracy is dead if the government can shut down parliament at will to achieve their ends.

 

Then we have an elected  dictatorship.

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1 minute ago, L00b said:

Sovereignty vests in Parliament, not in British subjects: there's no such thing as "will of the people" in British constitutional law. Only in populist haranguing.

If there is no will of the people, why have General Elections then, they are meaningless.

 

Angel1.

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4 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

So the establishment who are remain, passes a judgment that surprises no one. Democracy is now officially dead in the UK. RIP democracy, 17.4 million people have been betrayed by traitors and quislings. They cannot know or understand what they have done.

 

Angel1.

Your Supreme Court just restated the very fundamentals of British democracy, and this is your take on it?

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Just now, L00b said:

Your Supreme Court just restated the very fundamentals of British democracy, and this is your take on it?

The establishment passed the decision.

 

Angel1.

 

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Just now, ANGELFIRE1 said:

The establishment passed the decision.

 

Angel1.

 

Presumably Old Etonians aren't members of the establishment.

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4 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

If there is no will of the people, why have General Elections then, they are meaningless.

 

Angel1.

General Election results are not 'the will of the people', under any stretches of meaning.

 

They are the totals of valid votes, from voters expressing a preference for the Conservative party or the Labour party (simply speaking, in view of your FPTP voting system) to run the place for the next 5 years.

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1 minute ago, L00b said:

Sovereignty vests in Parliament, not in British subjects: there's no such thing as "will of the people" in British constitutional law. Only in populist haranguing.

Oh right, thanks.

 

In that case, I’m wondering why we had a referendum (or any general election ever) anyway, if it carries no legal weight?

 

Also, should we stop calling ourselves a democracy? The title eems a little misleading...

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2 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

This judgment is nothing to do with brexit. The judgment was to do with the government stopping parliament from sitting and being able to scrutinise the executive which is not legal. We have a parliamentary democracy and quite rightly parliament is the senior party.

This judgement has everything to do with Brexit!

 

Bozo was elected leader of the Conservative Party, purely because he promised that he would take the UK out of the EU on October 31st deal or no deal. Parliament made it clear that it would prevent the UK leaving with no deal and Johnson said that he would prevent them from doing that by suspending Parliament. He then went to the queen and gave her some old fanny about how he wanted to  prorogue Parliament so that she could make a speech about all his great new policies.

 

He lied to the sovereign in order to prevent Parliament interfere with his Brexit ambitions. It couldn’t be more about Brexit if you wrapped it in a flag of St George and slapped a comedy Nigel Farage mask on it! 🙄

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6 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

The establishment passed the decision.

 

Angel1.

 

You keep posting that word, establishment, as if you understood it :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

In that case, I’m wondering why we had a referendum (or any general election ever) anyway, if it carries no legal weight?

Ask David Cameron.

 

It was he who called a referendum with no strategy or legally binding mandate as an outcome.

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