MickeyBarnes   10 #25 Posted June 15, 2006 we only interfere if there is something in it for us, oil,gas,minerals or cash unless we can be seen to donate more than other countries in the case of a disaster   booo!! cynic!! - we interfere when people need our help too. Leftie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
taxman   12 #26 Posted June 15, 2006 I'm visiting the Rwandan Genocide Museum in Kigale in November. Half of me wants to go and remember what happened and learn more about the situation. Half of me is a bit uncertain about facing the horrors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Abdul   10 #27 Posted June 15, 2006 Dunno if you've seen 'Black Hawk Down', but in the directors' commentary, Ridley Scott mentions that the disaster suffered by US troops in the Battle of Mogadishu may have contributed to the world not responding to the massacres in Rwanda, just months later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Solomon1 Â Â 10 #28 Posted June 15, 2006 I'm visiting the Rwandan Genocide Museum in Kigale in November. Half of me wants to go and remember what happened and learn more about the situation. Half of me is a bit uncertain about facing the horrors. Â good on you taxman. educate us when you get back! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Solomon1 Â Â 10 #29 Posted June 15, 2006 Dunno if you've seen 'Black Hawk Down', but in the directors' commentary, Ridley Scott mentions that the disaster suffered by US troops in the Battle of Mogadishu may have contributed to the world not responding to the massacres in Rwanda, just months later. Â i haven't seen the film abdul, but interesting comment by Mr Scott... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
happyhippy   11 #30 Posted June 15, 2006 My reference to tribe was wrong: it was elements amongst the leadership (but English is one of the official languages of Rwanda nowadays). This article points to what I was getting at.  Ah. I see where you're coming from. I think maybe it should have said ' ....fluent in English as well as French ..... ', rather than ' ..... more fluent in English than French ...... '. It's easy to see how some confusion could arise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
happyhippy   11 #31 Posted June 15, 2006 Dunno if you've seen 'Black Hawk Down', but in the directors' commentary, Ridley Scott mentions that the disaster suffered by US troops in the Battle of Mogadishu may have contributed to the world not responding to the massacres in Rwanda, just months later.  I've no doubt in my mind that that was exactly the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
depoix   11 #32 Posted June 15, 2006 booo!! cynic!! - we interfere when people need our help too. Leftie!leftie, never,im always right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Teabag   10 #33 Posted June 15, 2006 The UN were on the ground and in numbers. Clinton is remembered for lots of 'fluff' but he had his sticky fingers over the UN withdrawal To directly intervene would have been messy but genocide could have been avoided. How did Rwandan's view the UN withdrawal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
happyhippy   11 #34 Posted June 17, 2006 The UN were on the ground and in numbers. Clinton is remembered for lots of 'fluff' but he had his sticky fingers over the UN withdrawal To directly intervene would have been messy but genocide could have been avoided. How did Rwandan's view the UN withdrawal?  The UN eventually went in too late to even begin to stop the massacres. I think it would be interesting to hear from our friend who is going to go to Kigali what the Rwandan view was.  I really, really hope he/she does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cliff Clavin   10 #35 Posted June 17, 2006 Dunno if you've seen 'Black Hawk Down', but in the directors' commentary, Ridley Scott mentions that the disaster suffered by US troops in the Battle of Mogadishu may have contributed to the world not responding to the massacres in Rwanda, just months later.  Not only was it because of the disaster to the cannon fodder, sorry troops. The Yanks also realised how taxing on resources it was too. There will never been action again were Natural resources aren't a key factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Teabag   10 #36 Posted June 17, 2006 The UN eventually went in too late to even begin to stop the massacres. I think it would be interesting to hear from our friend who is going to go to Kigali what the Rwandan view was. I really, really hope he/she does.  Recommend:Sometimes In April (2005) Film detailing events prior, during and after the genocide through the story of an intermarried Hutu-Tutsi family. We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families (1998) Non-fiction book by Philip Gourevitch. Left To Tell : Discovering God Amidst the Rwandan Holocaust (2006) Non-fiction book by Immaculee Ilibagiza detailing how she hid for 100 days in a small bathroom with seven other women during the Rwandan genocide in 1994. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...