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30 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Just watched Channel 4 News, and Johnson has been pushing for the idea of having a bridge from Scotland to Northern Ireland, partly as a means of solving the Brexit crisis, and partly as a means of bringing the nations of the UK together.

Some engineers have been scathing about the idea, though some seem enthusiastic about the project. 

Johnson does seem to have a thing about bridges....The one in London that was never built, but whose preparation cost a fortune.

LOL he IS the UKs answer to Donald Trump and has an obsession for bridges instead of Mr Orangeheads obsession with Walls

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35 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

There’s no chance of JC going before the GE 

I agree. It should have been done at last year’s party conference when the second referendum/people’s vote discussion was held.

 

The vast majority of Corbyn’s Momentum supporters are Remainers and it is they who should be pushing for Corbyn’s removal rather than those on the right of the party. If they set the agenda it is much more likely that someone like John Mc Donnell could replace him.

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3 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

I agree. It should have been done at last year’s party conference when the second referendum/people’s vote discussion was held.

 

The vast majority of Corbyn’s Momentum supporters are Remainers and it is they who should be pushing for Corbyn’s removal rather than those on the right of the party. If they set the agenda it is much more likely that someone like John Mc Donnell could replace him.

Labour’s leadership election rules make him virtually impossible to replace. Unless he’ stands down, Labour won’t win the next GE. 

 

Another hung parliament and five more years of chaos beckon.

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3 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Labour’s leadership election rules make him virtually impossible to replace. Unless he’ stands down,

I agree.

 

I wasn’t envisaging a bunfight with Corbyn or a palace coup. That’s not his style. More a comradely word in his ear about how a good socialist would step aside for the good of the working class to be replaced by McDonnell, leaving his manifesto intact.

 

I can actually see Corbyn going for that. It just needs someone to get the ball rolling, and fast.

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13 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Heavily biased towards the right.

 

I only know of two people who would describe themselves as on the left who voted to leave.

Either you mix in very different circles to me, or you're wishful thinking.  The majority of people I know that voted to leave are seasoned Labour voters, and definitely at the left.

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12 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The point that I was making is that both MPs you mentioned are both pretty vile creatures and in no way typical of the Labour Party.

 

Why should the fact that a vote is about a single issue make any difference? If you think that not supporting Brexit is not respecting the result of the referendum then surely opposing a government which was duly elected is also not respecting the result of the General Election.

 

You can’t have it both ways.

The difference is, after a general election, the results are respected and almost immediately enacted.  Even though many may be unhappy with the result.  There's no taking to the streets every Saturday and trying to overturn the results.  There's no swathes of BBC reporters crying in to their scripts and demanding for another go, as soon as the winners emerge.  

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7 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The Brexit Party is about as extreme as most English people are prepared to go.

Whilst there is still a chance that the will of the people will be enacted, maybe.

 

If it is not, then I fear much worse.  I, for one, don't want our democracy to descend into the abyss.

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30 minutes ago, Lex Luthor said:

Whilst there is still a chance that the will of the people will be enacted, maybe.

 

If it is not, then I fear much worse.  I, for one, don't want our democracy to descend into the abyss.

If politics is regularly being discussed in terms of the concept "Will of the People", our democracy is already well into the abyss.

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1 hour ago, Lex Luthor said:

Whilst there is still a chance that the will of the people will be enacted, maybe.

 

If it is not, then I fear much worse.  I, for one, don't want our democracy to descend into the abyss.

As the out going speaker said in his resignation speech. MPs are representatives and not delegates. Until you understand this, you don’t know what our democracy really is. 

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4 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

The difference is, after a general election, the results are respected and almost immediately enacted.  Even though many may be unhappy with the result.  There's no taking to the streets every Saturday and trying to overturn the results.  There's no swathes of BBC reporters crying in to their scripts and demanding for another go, as soon as the winners emerge.  

That's exactly correct.   However the democratic 2016 EU Referendum result would have been implemented immediately if Remain had won.   David Cameron should have triggered Article 50 on the morning of 24th June 2016 to get things moving faster before he resigned.

 

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5 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

That's exactly correct.   However the democratic 2016 EU Referendum result would have been implemented immediately if Remain had won.   David Cameron should have triggered Article 50 on the morning of 24th June 2016 to get things moving faster before he resigned.

 

He was lying when he promised that.....

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13 hours ago, Mister M said:

Just watched Channel 4 News, and Johnson has been pushing for the idea of having a bridge from Scotland to Northern Ireland, partly as a means of solving the Brexit crisis, and partly as a means of bringing the nations of the UK together.

Some engineers have been scathing about the idea, though some seem enthusiastic about the project. 

Johnson does seem to have a thing about bridges....The one in London that was never built, but whose preparation cost a fortune.

Its not a new idea

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_fixed_sea_link_connections

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