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15 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Or much more likely Tory remainers (and quite a few other people) saw Brexit as the lesser of two evils when compared to a Corbyn led government. 

 

Pro-remain / 2nd referendum parties got more votes than pro Brexit parties - but first past the post works in a completely different manner to a referendum.

The Lib Dems pledged to revoke Article 50 if they won the General Election. The SNP would have voted to revoke Article 50 if the Lib Dems needed the support of another party to do so.  If the electorate had wanted to remain in the EU then the Lib Dems would have been the largest party after the December General Election.  Traditional Labour leave voters switched to the Tory party because they want to leave the EU.  

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5 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

Don't you know. :huh:

Well yes I do, just wondered if you did as it seems to read from your reply that it was not being crowdfunded.

 

As someone else has stated if the public want to contribute then let them.

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58 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Or much more likely Tory remainers (and quite a few other people) saw Brexit as the lesser of two evils when compared to a Corbyn led government. 

Very dodgy and doubtful.

 

58 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Pro-remain / 2nd referendum parties got more votes than pro Brexit parties - but first past the post works in a completely different manner to a referendum.

And as the FPTP system is the way it goes in the UK for elections the fact that pro-remain/2nd referendum parties got more votes makes no difference. Everybody who voted for them should have already known that the likelihood of them winning and/or Swinson being PM was very remote to say the least.

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9 minutes ago, apelike said:

Well yes I do, just wondered if you did as it seems to read from your reply that it was not being crowdfunded.

 

As someone else has stated if the public want to contribute then let them.

Let whos idea it was pay.

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4 hours ago, West 77 said:

How much money is wasted every New Year's  in London for the fireworks display?  The ticket sales only partially fund the event.  Brexit Eve is a one off event never to be repeated and it's a chance to show the World we have become a sovereign nation again.  I will be celebrating at 11.00pm on 31st  January as will many others who have pride in their country.

Brexit eve - I’ve never heard such tosh.

 

We already were a sovereign country. Why is it important to show the world we are anyway?

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11 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

How many in the UK fishing industry do you think have lost their jobs since EU regulation?

How many would have lost their jobs anyway? Fish stocks were seriously depleted.

 

Without the CFP there may not have been any more fish to catch at all!

 

11 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

How many whole towns have been decimated?

The EU Common Fisheries Policy has helped, not harmed, UK fisheries:

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/can-europe-make-it/eu-common-fisheries-policy-has-helped-not-harmed-uk-fisheries-0/

"Many ports around the UK only have a small fraction of the vessels they once had, but blaming the EU here doesn’t make much sense. First, technological changes have led to a reduction in the number of fishing vessels in developed countries both inside and outside the EU. Second, vessel decommissioning schemes from the EU actually helped many fishers and coastal communities through a difficult transition as quotas lessened. Third, one of the most significant issues for small ports is how quota is allocated between different fishing fleets and this is a national decision."

 

There's every chance that the decimation was inevitable and for those involved, far worse without the EU.

 

Brexit isn't going to help the UK fishing industry or address any of the problems it faces, a significant portion of which were a result of  UK government policy rather than the EU's.

 

They'll be the first under the wheels come crunch time I'll wager.

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3 hours ago, makapaka said:

Brexit eve - I’ve never heard such tosh.

 

We already were a sovereign country. Why is it important to show the world we are anyway?

And at the strike of the first bong we won’t be a sovereign nation. We will still be under EU rules but with no MEPs or any representation we have absolutely zero say until any trade deal is completed. 

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6 hours ago, West 77 said:

The Lib Dems pledged to revoke Article 50 if they won the General Election. The SNP would have voted to revoke Article 50 if the Lib Dems needed the support of another party to do so.  If the electorate had wanted to remain in the EU then the Lib Dems would have been the largest party after the December General Election.  Traditional Labour leave voters switched to the Tory party because they want to leave the EU.  

It was a General Election remember - not a referendum. Don't think anyone thought Swinson would have made a credible PM. 

6 hours ago, apelike said:

Very dodgy and doubtful.

So who did the Tory remainers vote for then?

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Looking forward to beginning the celebrations and countdown on Brexit Eve.

 

Because it's a once in a lifetime event the atmosphere will be one of longing and anticipation. 

 

Its gonna be magical. Can't wait!

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1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

And at the strike of the first bong we won’t be a sovereign nation. We will still be under EU rules but with no MEPs or any representation we have absolutely zero say until any trade deal is completed. 

You are aware that when we joined in 1973 we had no representation?

 

The EU only decided it needed a fig leaf Parliament in 1979, when the first MEPS were elected.

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1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

Looking forward to beginning the celebrations and countdown on Brexit Eve.

 

Because it's a once in a lifetime event the atmosphere will be one of longing and anticipation. 

 

Its gonna be magical. Can't wait!

10 more years of Tory rule if Momentum get there way in the Labour leadership contest. Odd sort of magic for a supposed socialist.

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1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

Looking forward to beginning the celebrations and countdown on Brexit Eve.

 

Because it's a once in a lifetime event the atmosphere will be one of longing and anticipation. 

 

Its gonna be magical. Can't wait!

What are you longing and anticipating?

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