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Mod Note: As we are getting rather tired of seeing reports about this. The use of the word Remoaners  is to cease. Either posts like adults, or don't post at all. The mod warnings have been clear.

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In addition to remoaner we are also not going to allow the use of libdums or liebore - if you cannot behave like adults and post without recourse to these childish insults then please refrain from posting. If you have a problem with this then you all know where the helpdesk is. 

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I heard one was saying vaguely good if utterly unacheivable things about rough sleepers and the other was burbling about Rameses II and making a colossal wreck of things....

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On ‎30‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 20:10, L00b said:

That they would, but that's also why collectivisation of mitigating policies is desirable - and actually under way, by the EU and others.

 

That sort of collectivisation does happen indeed,  and works, as factually witnessed in recent times with the eradication of just about all tax havens (admittedly, once the US finally got off its thumb in the 90s, and decided to seriously set about doing something about them, spearheading for the rest of the crowd). But it takes a long time to set up and to bear fruits, and a fundamental prerequisite is that enough members in the G20 must first realise and acknowledge the danger of doing nothing (or, in context, continuing to race against fellow members towards the socio-economic bottom for short-term gain).

Where the relatively recent initiatives lie on the spectrum between "eradication of tax havens" and "window dressing" will depend on your point of view, and your definition of "tax haven".  I might well be behind the times, but the last I heard, the BVI, Cayman Islands, Jersey and Bermuda were still doing a roaring trade, and that's just tax havens under British jurisdiction (all part of being "business-friendly" of course).  Before, that is, we get onto European tax havens like Ireland, Luxembourg and the Netherlands, or American ones like Delaware, or havens in less developed countries.

 

This sort of collectivisation doesn't necessarily take a long time to set up, if the will is there.  The Bretton Woods agreement was negotiated in three weeks, and bore the fruits of 25 or 30 years of shared prosperity and financial stability (showing that capitalism and small-'s' socialism could co-exist - social goals derived from the Atlantic Charter were a more or less explicit aim).  It was also wider in scope than just (what is now) the EU, the USA indeed being the leader.

 

The problem, as you point out, is that the will is not there.

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It threatened to rain in Wakefield today but it didn’t, and it was quite clear and bright later on.

 

I got two different junk food shop menus through my letter box this morning but didn’t think that it was connected to the failure of Brexit to happen.

 

€uro Car Parts on Penistone Road is still called €uro Car Parts. Apart from all that, a fairly normal day.

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There should be financial compensation for Leave voters who have had their democratic choice to Leave the EU ignored by the wealthy Remainer establishment.

 

Leave voters in the North (who have already suffered widespread poverty, deprivation, insecurity and marginalisation during our EU membership - hence their sensible decision to vote Leave) have also faced for the last three years an establishment elite refusing to implement the democratic decision of 17.4 million people.

 

It's time to compensate these voters for the shameful way their voting decision has been ignored and how our society has been torn apart by our membership of the EU trading bloc.

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12 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

It's time to compensate these voters for the shameful way their voting decision has been ignored and how our society has been torn apart by our membership of the EU trading bloc.

I'ts time to start fining people who post Bobare on internet forums.

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41 minutes ago, Dardandec said:

I'ts time to start fining people who post Bobare on internet forums.

the current conservatives would be broke

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10 minutes ago, melthebell said:

the current conservatives would be broke

Still not convinced its going to happen even though everyone I know voted for it can't remember results think 48% against 52% for it we will end up having another vote and will remain in because most people don't care now after all lies and delays and extentions people will abstain from voting... 

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2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

There should be financial compensation for Leave voters who have had their democratic choice to Leave the EU ignored.

The gift that keeps on giving! 🤣

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2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

There should be financial compensation for Leave voters who have had their democratic choice to Leave the EU ignored by the wealthy Remainer establishment.

 

 

We’ve all had financial compensation for not leaving the EU.

 

It comes in the form of an untrashed ecomomy, which is currently providing living standards roughly 5% higher than they will be post Brexit.

 

Spend it wisely. I’ve invested mine in some non-UK stocks.

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2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

There should be financial compensation for Leave voters who have had their democratic choice to Leave the EU ignored by the wealthy Remainer establishment.

 

Leave voters in the North (who have already suffered widespread poverty, deprivation, insecurity and marginalisation during our EU membership - hence their sensible decision to vote Leave) have also faced for the last three years an establishment elite refusing to implement the democratic decision of 17.4 million people.

 

It's time to compensate these voters for the shameful way their voting decision has been ignored and how our society has been torn apart by our membership of the EU trading bloc.

So should the EU ask for its subsidies back? - Leave voters in the North have continued to milk the cash cows of EU subsidies since the leave vote, and Farage will continue to milk his particular EU gravy train for the foreseeable future.

What do you think, Mr Junk from the Trunk? Or is this just right wing or left wing (as you can't make your mind up) totalitarian / fascist / communistic propaganda?

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1 hour ago, gaz 786 said:

Still not convinced its going to happen even though everyone I know voted for it 

Yes but that is just everyone you know. The majority of people in the UK did not vote for it so why should the majority of UK citizens be held to ransom by a shouty minority? 😳

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