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I doubt it's going to happen. Whilst tacking on 16-17 year olds might be a step too far, tacking on Settled Status EU people is not, and if that happens Cummings will work his fingers inside the Boris puppet and the bill will get pulled....

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So do I have this right?  We judge 16, 17 years old not mature enough to decide whether they should buy alcohol or cigarettes.   But they are smart enough to vote for a new government?

 

What a cynical move from the socialists who know they can only appeal to naive children.  Im my view we should we should raise the age to 21.  Or perhaps no age, but a vote is a right someone earns once they have paid tax for a couple of years.

 

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2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

A December general election will see Socialism reborn in the UK.

 

A Socialism free from the freedoms for big business which is all that the EU has to offer. 

 

Socialist hope, not EU inspired despair.

 

Jerry Christmas everyone!

How? You gonna vote for the Tories or farage to get yer precious brexit through? How very socialist of you, as labour (the most socialist in decades) won't allow brexit ;)

2 hours ago, L00b said:

I can't see a deal forming between Johnson and Farage.

 

I mean, I know that it makes perfect sense for the Tories to do that deal, for avoiding vote dilution at the ballot box.

 

But it doesn't make any sense for Farage, with very limited prospects of getting any MPs elected to start with.

 

On that basis, if a deal is done, then at least we'll finally know Farage is more of an ideologue hellbent on cutting all ties with the EU, than a cynical snake oil peddler riding a political gravy train.

I've been watching a lot of farages videos lately and he really hates borises deal, it's not brexit in any shape or form, and calls Boris a liar so really don't think he'll go into a pact with the tories

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2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

A December general election will see Socialism reborn in the UK.

 

A Socialism free from the freedoms for big business which is all that the EU has to offer. 

 

Socialist hope, not EU inspired despair.

 

Jerry Christmas everyone!

Hahaha hahaha

 

Classic Boot.

32 minutes ago, avalunche said:

So do I have this right?  We judge 16, 17 years old not mature enough to decide whether they should buy alcohol or cigarettes.   But they are smart enough to vote for a new government?

 

What a cynical move from the socialists who know they can only appeal to naive children.  Im my view we should we should raise the age to 21.  Or perhaps no age, but a vote is a right someone earns once they have paid tax for a couple of years.

 

What sort of tax?

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37 minutes ago, melthebell said:

I've been watching a lot of farages videos lately and he really hates borises deal, it's not brexit in any shape or form, and calls Boris a liar so really don't think he'll go into a pact with the tories

Farage standing will help Labour’s to retain seats in Labour Leave constituencies where the disaffected Labour voters would rather vote for Farage than the Tories, thereby splitting the Leave vote.

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Just now, Top Cats Hat said:

Farage standing will help Labour’s to retain seats in Labour Leave constituencies where the disaffected Labour voters would rather vote for Farage than the Tories, thereby splitting the Leave vote.

Don't bet on those Labour seats not voting tory. It started in 2017, it will continue.

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14 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Hahaha hahaha

 

Classic Boot.

What sort of tax?

Maybe we should only let net contributors vote.

 

That would simplify the count😎

2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Don't bet on those Labour seats not voting tory. It started in 2017, it will continue.

It happened in reverse too.

 

I wouldn’t bet on anything, given the crazy state of our politics.

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32 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

What sort of tax?

Income obviously.  In other words the people who pay for government and the state be the ones who choose it.

 

I would go further.  For each £10K paid in tax = 1 vote.  Upto a maximum of say 10 votes.

 

24 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Maybe we should only let net contributors vote.

 

That would simplify the count😎

It happened in reverse too.

 

I wouldn’t bet on anything, given the crazy state of our politics.

And make us more likely to get a sensible answer.   Not the eternal Labour in Sheffield that wastes our money on projects that makes things worse. 

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9 minutes ago, avalunche said:

Income obviously.  In other words the people who pay for government and the state be the ones who choose it.

 

I would go further.  For each £10K paid in tax = 1 vote.  Upto a maximum of say 10 votes.

 

And make us more likely to get a sensible answer.   Not the eternal Labour in Sheffield that wastes our money on projects that makes things worse. 

Follow Boris’s example.

Routemaster buses,Garden Bridges,water cannons.

One further point,can we also deduct voting rights based on the amount of tax evaded.

 

 

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As the starter of this enormous thread - just noting yet another consequence - we are heading for our FOURTH prime minister in less than four years as things stand. We are heading for our second general election. 

 

Consequences. Have them. 

 

Anybody who thinks it is good for the country to have a government and parliament consumed by a single issue? Please speak up.

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1 hour ago, avalunche said:

So do I have this right?  We judge 16, 17 years old not mature enough to decide whether they should buy alcohol or cigarettes.   But they are smart enough to vote for a new government?

 

What a cynical move from the socialists who know they can only appeal to naive children.  Im my view we should we should raise the age to 21.  Or perhaps no age, but a vote is a right someone earns once they have paid tax for a couple of years.

 

A "cynical move from the socialists"? You do know that people as young as 15 were allowed to vote for Johnson as Tory leader (and thus PM), don't you?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-leadership-under16s-voting-boris-johnson-hypocrisy-a9007851.html

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43 minutes ago, avalunche said:

Income obviously.  In other words the people who pay for government and the state be the ones who choose it.

 

I would go further.  For each £10K paid in tax = 1 vote.  Upto a maximum of say 10 votes.

 

And make us more likely to get a sensible answer.   Not the eternal Labour in Sheffield that wastes our money on projects that makes things worse. 

Maybe we should just let you choose people who can vote.

 

That seems a fair and reasonable method

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