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[Phanerothyme 12]

9 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

The intention of the fixed term Parliament Act wasn't to allow the opposition parties to block whatever the Government wants to do. 

Quite, they should be doing that regardless of the FTPA. 

[Dardandec 32]

4 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Let's have a Brexit general election in December!

Whats a Brexit general election?

[Litotes 63]

4 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Let's have a Brexit general election in December!

 

Or are the Remainers frit?

How about a 2nd referendum to confirm the 2016 one? or are you frit?

And then an election to confirm the results of the referendum?

 

Or are you frit?

 

<cue the excuses>

[Car Boot 10]

35 minutes ago, Litotes said:

How about a 2nd referendum to confirm the 2016 one? or are you frit?

And then an election to confirm the results of the referendum?

 

Or are you frit?

 

<cue the excuses>

How are you going to get a second referendum in this Parliament?  Answer: You're absolutely NOT.

 

The second referendum supporters among our current batch of MPs are not there in numbers - ask any People's Vote campaigner. Even if they were, the Tories would need to be replaced by a government of National Unity which also is simply NOT going to happen. Especially now the Lib Dems have abstained on a motion to protect the NHS from further privatisation.

 

So the only option is for a Brexit dominated general election. 

 

Or are the Remainers frit?

 

December Brexit general election - bring it on. 

[Car Boot 10]

1 hour ago, Dardandec said:

Whats a Brexit general election?

It's any general election that happens before the UK Leaves the EU.

[Pettytom 1]

8 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

How are you going to get a second referendum in this Parliament?  Answer: You're absolutely NOT.

 

The second referendum supporters among our current batch of MPs are not there in numbers - ask any People's Vote campaigner. Even if they were, the Tories would need to be replaced by a government of National Unity which also is simply NOT going to happen. Especially now the Lib Dems have abstained on a motion to protect the NHS from further privatisation.

 

So the only option is for a Brexit dominated general election. 

 

Or are the Remainers frit?

 

December Brexit general election - bring it on. 

We don’t need a GE.

 

The opposition alliance have Johnson’s extremists exactly where they want them. Why would anyone want to spoil that?

Least of all a socialist....

[Car Boot 10]

10 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

We don’t need a GE.

 

The opposition alliance have Johnson’s extremists exactly where they want them. Why would anyone want to spoil that?

Least of all a socialist....

A Socialist with a strong belief in letting  the people decide would support a general election. 

 

Why are you so frit?

 

Does Jeremy as Prime Minister scare you that much? He certainly scares the EU money men...

 

Edited October 25, 2019 by Car Boot

[Pettytom 1]

1 minute ago, Car Boot said:

A Socialist with a strong belief in letting  the people decide would support a general election. 

 

Why are you so frit?

 

Does Jeremy as Prime Minister scare you that much? He certainly scares the EU money men.

 

No. What scares me is being unable to trade properly with out biggest and best allies. 
 

That will lead to a big recession.

 

That will make the already poor into destitute people. 
 

You will be partly responsible for that. 
 

I hope you are proud.

 

I’m sure that you’ll be fine though. You could always tap Anne Widdecombe, or JRM for a few quid.

 

Socialist, my backside.

[tinfoilhat 11]

1 hour ago, Pettytom said:

No. What scares me is being unable to trade properly with out biggest and best allies. 
 

That will lead to a big recession.

 

That will make the already poor into destitute people. 
 

You will be partly responsible for that. 
 

I hope you are proud.

 

I’m sure that you’ll be fine though. You could always tap Anne Widdecombe, or JRM for a few quid.

 

Socialist, my backside.

Is that too long to be a signature?

[apelike 10]

5 hours ago, Pettytom said:

But the fixed term parliament act makes five years the expected norm.

Yes it does but as you say that is basically the accepted norm but it can also be overruled and changed pending a new GE.

 

5 hours ago, Pettytom said:

The only way that it can be fewer than five years is with the consent of the opposition.

Which means that the FTPA is not set in stone.

 

5 hours ago, Pettytom said:

Its the law.

I didn't state that the fixed term parliament act was not the law.

 

5 hours ago, Pettytom said:

No more to add.

Yes there is as the length of term can actually be subject to change as we have already seen with May and her holding a snap GE. 

[Longcol 600]

Well, colour me surprised - as if we didn't know why Johnson / Cummings was trying to rush his deal through Parliament with next to no scrutiny.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-deal-boris-johnson-eu-workers-rights-environment-leak-labour-a9171961.html

 

I wonder what else will turn up?

[tzijlstra 11]

11 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Does Jeremy as Prime Minister scare you that much? He certainly scares the EU money men...

 

 

The UK was and is by far the most market liberal member state in the EU.

 

The UK leaving the EU will therefore make the EU more 'socialist'.

 

The UK has a veto on all legislation that is coming through the EU. As such it has stopped a significant number of initiatives by threatening to veto at European Council level. A few examples of where the UK is far more market liberal:

• Take Jeremy's 'nationalise the railway again' - the United Kingdom went far beyond what was actually in the Directive in 1991 relating to privatisation. In fact, British Rail could still have existed as a state owned subsidiary, just as most railway companies in the EU.
• It was the EU that offered to protect the steel industry from cheap Chinese imports. It was Sajid Javid (CONS) who blocked this EU wide approach.
• The EU wants to stop tax havens, it is the UK that blocked it.
• The EU wants internet companies to pay tax at the place of transaction, it is the UK that blocked it.