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Mod Note: As we are getting rather tired of seeing reports about this. The use of the word Remoaners  is to cease. Either posts like adults, or don't post at all. The mod warnings have been clear.

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In addition to remoaner we are also not going to allow the use of libdums or liebore - if you cannot behave like adults and post without recourse to these childish insults then please refrain from posting. If you have a problem with this then you all know where the helpdesk is. 

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39 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

John Mann, Bassetlaw voted 67.8 to leave the corrupt EU.

 

31 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

You're arguing with yourself again because everyone already knew Bassetlaw voted 70% to Leave and 30% to Remain.  They only counted the votes of constituents who voted just like everywhere else in the UK.

Brexit, in two posts : when posters put their faith in beliefs (or headlines, same difference) rather than basic arithmetic :rolleyes:

 

You'll be please to read that's my last on this parenthesis: it's clearly pointless linking you to facts (official voting figures and turnout rate) and pointing out that they do not correlate with your '70%' beliefs when, according to you, it's always going to be "untrue because reasons" anyway.

 

Much happier to let Darwin eventually do his thing :lol:

 

Now then, about picking those 16m apples, are any of you Leave voters, who caused this shortfall of seasonal EU workers, ready and willing to help your fellow Leave-voting farmers? Or will it be cause for Leave-voting retirees to call for their fellow Leave-voting unemployed to go earn their benefits in orchards?

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12 hours ago, Litotes said:

When you actually look at the data sets used, they are so minimalist that they would not stand up to any statistical scrutiny;

https://www.comresglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Daily-Express-Snap-Political-Poll-Oct-2019-v1.pdf

 

This is like me asking my mates what they voted for and then publishing it as fact - which of course it would be.

 

In my opinion, the figures do not reflect in any way the regional bias (c.f. the Scottish vote).

 

P.S. Still waiting for any evidence that Brexit will benefit the EU...

P.P.S. Been waiting for over 3 years

So can anyone prove that he sent the letter?

Yes, he has received a letter - which is apparently unsigned.

Does this mean that if you or I sent a letter with Boris' name at the bottom, it would be taken as originated from him, without proof i.e. signature?

 

Boris is mocking the parliamentary process of the UK, and by doing so mocking the electorate of the UK.

 

He should be jailed for this action.

How can you jail someone for obeying the law ? The Benn act obliged him to send a letter requesting an extension he has complied

 

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37 minutes ago, ads36 said:

 

most countries in Europe get roughly 1 week more in public holidays.

 

so it all adds up to more or less the same, but it's UK workers that have fewer holidays enshrined in law.

It will be the responsibility of our own Parliament to decide whatever future legislation is necessary to protect our own workers and environment.   We have General Elections to decide which Party or Parties decide what is enshrined in law.  

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5 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

How can you jail someone for obeying the law ? The Benn act obliged him to send a letter requesting an extension he has complied

 

The whole legal argument is ludicrous. The letter has been acted upon and the EU leaders will be considering whether to grant an extension.  They can't send Boris the Prime Minister of our country to jail for expressing an opinion that an extension is not in our country's interest or the EU's interest.  

 

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28 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The whole legal argument is ludicrous. The letter has been acted upon and the EU leaders will be considering whether to grant an extension.  They can't send Boris the Prime Minister of our country to jail for expressing an opinion that an extension is not in our country's interest or the EU's interest.  

 

But people do go to jail for contempt of court.
 

We have courts to decide this sort of thing. Let them do their work. As a democrat , I’m sure that you believe in the importance of the Judicial System 

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15 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

But people do go to jail for contempt of court.
 

We have courts to decide this sort of thing. Let them do their work. As a democrat , I’m sure that you believe in the importance of the Judicial System 

I am not disputing that people go to jail for contempt.  

 

Those getting the courts involved about the letters are only do so for political reasons and are wasting the court's time.  

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18 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

But people do go to jail for contempt of court.
 

We have courts to decide this sort of thing. Let them do their work. As a democrat , I’m sure that you believe in the importance of the Judicial System 

I can’t understand why people are still arguing about this. The Act said the PM must ask for an extension. He has sent a letter asking for The extension.

 

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15 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

I can’t understand why people are still arguing about this. The Act said the PM must ask for an extension. He has sent a letter asking for The extension.

 

Had he sent solely the Benn Act letter, duly signed, I'd agree with you.

 

As it is, however, Johnson has sent two letters, with the Benn Act-compliant letter unsigned, and the other letter disavowing the Benn Act letter duly signed: his act has created a genuine issue about compliance with the Benn Act, serious enough to be tried (this is a legal threshold).

 

A problem of Johnson's own making (months ago during his leadership bid) and, given his track record in the Courts to date, likely yet another attempt to be cute with the spirit/letter of the law that the Court will quash (at your tax-paying expense).

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29 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

I am not disputing that people go to jail for contempt.  

 

Those getting the courts involved about the letters are only do so for political reasons and are wasting the court's time.  

I think that the court should decide whether their time  is being wasted, or not.

 

As a democrat, I’m sure that you agree

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1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

We have General Elections to decide which Party or Parties decide what is enshrined in law.  

it's almost as if we always were an independent country...

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37 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

I can’t understand why people are still arguing about this. The Act said the PM must ask for an extension. He has sent a letter asking for The extension.

 

You’d expect the Prime Minister to comply fully with the law of the land, wouldn’t you?

 

It sort of goes with the job.

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6 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

You’d expect the Prime Minister to comply fully with the law of the land, wouldn’t you?

 

It sort of goes with the job.

hobinfoot believes like all reasonable  people that the Prime Minster has complied fully with the law of the land which is the point he made.

 

23 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

I think that the court should decide whether their time  is being wasted, or not.

 

As a democrat, I’m sure that you agree

As a democratic I am entitled to say when I think court time is being wasted just as our Prime Minister is entitled to express his view for an extension to Article 50 is not in the best interest of our country and the EU.

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