Consequences Of Brexit [Part 8] Read First Post Before Posting

[melthebell 863]

8 hours ago, Baron99 said:

And another good reason to be saying bye - bye to the EU.  

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/02/wto-rules-in-favor-of-us-in-aircraft-subsidies-dispute.html

 

And before anyone points out the UK are mentioned, this was from a time of pro-EU Blair, (who promised an referendum but never delivered), & as part of the collective EU. 

Funnily I read A few weeks ago that the US had lodged complaints with us on the eus site on this subject.

to me it shows again the US can't be trusted In post brexit trade talks, it's all about American interests first, we will get highly shafted.

 

[Lockdoctor 10]

12 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The DUP represents less than 3% of the Irish population.

 

The EU have consistently stood behind the Irish people and the Belfast agreement and wont support a bar of Bozo’s ‘plan’.

The DUP were the largest party in the Northern Ireland Assembly when it last sat. The DUP are the largest party from Northern Ireland who sit in the Westminster Parliament.  The DUP were the only political party who have MPs in the Westminister Parliament who campaigned for all of the UK to leave the EU before the democratic EU Referendum vote.  The plan by the Boris led Government respects the Belfast agreement.

 

The support of the DUP is very important if Parliament are going to vote in favour of a new or amended Withdrawal Agreement to avoid a no-deal exit from the EU on 31st October. 

[Top Cats Hat 10]

31 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The DUP were the only political party who have MPs in the Westminister Parliament who campaigned for all of the UK to leave the EU before the democratic EU Referendum vote. 

The DUP are a bunch of right wing religious cranks who do not represent the people of Ireland.

 

Protecting the peace process is way more important than ‘getting Brexit done’ and let’s not forget that a hell of a lot more people voted for the Belfast agreement than voted for Brexit.

[Lockdoctor 10]

15 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The DUP are a bunch of right wing religious cranks who do not represent the people of Ireland.

 

Protecting the peace process is way more important than ‘getting Brexit done’ and let’s not forget that a hell of a lot more people voted for the Belfast agreement than voted for Brexit.

The DUP represents a large proportion of the people of Northern Ireland. 

 

Protecting the peace process is a lame shameful excuse to deny 17.4 million leave voters their democratic wish to leave the EU given the fact that the Boris proposal most certainly does respect the Good Friday Agreement.  It's now up to the EU and the Republic of Ireland to agree to the proposal put forward by the Boris led Government to end the uncertainty about Brexit and to put an end to all the scaremongering about a return to the troubles.  

[tinfoilhat 11]

6 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

 

 

Protecting the peace process is a lame shameful excuse

I'm just going to leave that one there I think. Like a monument.

[Lockdoctor 10]

7 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

I'm just going to leave that one there I think. Like a monument.

Text book cherry picking a part of a post to take the comment out of context. 

[altus 540]

2 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The DUP represents a large proportion of the people of Northern Ireland. 

 

Protecting the peace process is a lame shameful excuse to deny 17.4 million leave voters their democratic wish to leave the EU given the fact that the Boris proposal most certainly does respect the Good Friday Agreement.  It's now up to the EU and the Republic of Ireland to agree to the proposal put forward by the Boris led Government to end the uncertainty about Brexit and to put an end to all the scaremongering about a return to the troubles.  

But it doesn't represent how the majority of voters in Northern Ireland voted in the EU referendum.

 

Protecting the peace process is a lame shameful excuse to deny 17.4 million leave voters their democratic wish to leave the EU given the fact that the Boris proposal most certainly does respect the Good Friday Agreement.  It's now up to the EU and the Republic of Ireland to agree to the proposal put forward by the Boris led Government to end the uncertainty about Brexit and to put an end to all the scaremongering about a return to the troubles.

Boris can claim his proposal respects the Good Friday Agreement all he wants but that doesn't mean it does and many people disagree. It also, entirely predictably, includes an attempt to undermine the single market:

Northern Ireland would also stay aligned with EU standards on goods if Stormont agreed by December 2020, the end of the transition period, and then in a vote every four years.

But the UK has also requested that both sides commit at treaty level “never to conduct checks at the border” even if Stormont vetoes the arrangements laid out in the new 44-page Irish protocol.

Barnier said that this commitment would prevent Brussels from protecting its internal market if the Northern Ireland assembly blocked the arrangement in 2020 or at a later date.

 

What is shameful is those people willing to put the lives of people in Northern Ireland at risk because of their desire for an extreme form of brexit. Perhaps those advocating it should be forced to live there so they can share in the consequences.

[apelike 10]

12 minutes ago, altus said:

But it doesn't represent how the majority of voters in Northern Ireland voted in the EU referendum.

Nor should it as the referendum was for the whole of the UK and not just NI. Not forgetting that in NI only 790,618 people voted and that remain got just over 55% of the total votes at 440,707.

 

[Top Cats Hat 10]

1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

. Protecting the peace process is a lame shameful excuse to deny 17.4 million leave voters their democratic wish to leave the EU 

I shall also cherry pick this vile comment for no other reason that to demonstrate how obsessed some Leave supporters are about their beloved Brexit.

 

Disgraceful! 😡

[Lockdoctor 10]

51 minutes ago, altus said:

But it doesn't represent how the majority of voters in Northern Ireland voted in the EU referendum.

 

 

 

Boris can claim his proposal respects the Good Friday Agreement all he wants but that doesn't mean it does and many people disagree. It also, entirely predictably, includes an attempt to undermine the single market:

 

 

What is shameful is those people willing to put the lives of people in Northern Ireland at risk because of their desire for an extreme form of brexit. Perhaps those advocating it should be forced to live there so they can share in the consequences.

As apelike has pointed out the EU Referendum was to decide whether the whole of UK remained or left the EU. We all know if the majority of Scotland had voted to go independent in September 2014 that  Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon wouldn't have given a Monkey's about the  Scottish people of Banff and Buchan if most of them had voted to remain part of the UK.

 

Let's be honest the people who don't respect the democratic EU referendum result will find fault in any proposal put forward by Boris in the hope of stopping Brexit.  The alternative to the new proposal is a backstop just for Northern Ireland but that is not acceptable to the DUP who are the largest party in Northern Ireland and sit in the Westminster Parliament unlike the second largest party in Northern Ireland. The DUP deserve to have a say in any proposals.

 

The proposal put forward by Brexit is not an extreme form of Brexit because it is a compromise.  The shameful people are those who continue to scaremonger about the prospect of the troubles returning to Brexit by the implementation of the democratic 2016 EU Referendum result.

[melthebell 863]

1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

Text book cherry picking a part of a post to take the comment out of context. 

Say that to the families of those killed during the past 50 years, lives matter more than a nonsense based on lies and racism, no matter who voted for it

[tinfoilhat 11]

38 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

As apelike has pointed out the EU Referendum was to decide whether the whole of UK remained or left the EU. We all know if the majority of Scotland had voted to go independent in September 2014 that  Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon wouldn't have given a Monkey's about the  Scottish people of Banff and Buchan if most of them had voted to remain part of the UK.

 

Let's be honest the people who don't respect the democratic EU referendum result will find fault in any proposal put forward by Boris in the hope of stopping Brexit.  The alternative to the new proposal is a backstop just for Northern Ireland but that is not acceptable to the DUP who are the largest party in Northern Ireland and sit in the Westminster Parliament unlike the second largest party in Northern Ireland. The DUP deserve to have a say in any proposals.

 

The proposal put forward by Brexit is not an extreme form of Brexit because it is a compromise.  The shameful people are those who continue to scaremonger about the prospect of the troubles returning to Brexit by the implementation of the democratic 2016 EU Referendum result.

Well the UK won’t exist in decade.

 

Your use of the word shameful is at best misplaced but more likely, shameful.