Consequences Of Brexit [Part 8] Read First Post Before Posting

[apelike 10]

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

Because they can't afford not to.

So it not because they are forced to then! Glad that's cleared that up. 

 

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

 

 

 

[Mister Gee 812]

9 minutes ago, apelike said:

So it not because they are forced to then! Glad that's cleared that up. 

 

 

 

Not yet but we’ll soon see.

[Longcol 597]

29 minutes ago, apelike said:

So it not because they are forced to then! Glad that's cleared that up. 

 

 

 

So it's need that's the driver to work more than 48 hours rather than "can and want",

 

Or you could say "forced to" because the wage without large amounts of overtime is simply insufficient for a decent standard of living.

[altus 538]

1 hour ago, apelike said:

So it not because they are forced to then! Glad that's cleared that up.

We've discussed the working time directive before. If you're at a job interview and they ask if you'd be willing to opt out of the WTD it's pretty obvious how unlikely you'll be to get the job if you don't say yes. Similarly, if your current employer asks if you'd be willing to opt out of the WTD you can guess the effect saying no would have when they next decide to shed staff.

 

At best people are coerced into 'opting' out rather than being forced, but that doesn't make much difference in practice.

[Car Boot 10]

On 26/12/2019 at 10:43, Mister Gee said:

Not looking good for the workers comrade!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/18/brexiteers-paid-holidays-millions-britons-eu-working-time-directive-rights

Project Fear was a strategic failure that backfired badly. 

 

Did you not get the memo?

[Longcol 597]

4 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Project Fear was a strategic failure that backfired badly. 

 

Did you not get the memo?

Project Cummings - for the rich and screw the rest came out on top.

 

 

[melthebell 862]

11 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Project Fear was a strategic failure that backfired badly. 

 

Did you not get the memo?

The whole brexit charade is built on project fear

[Longcol 597]

1 hour ago, melthebell said:

The whole brexit charade is built on project fear

For example the lies about Turkey joining the EU.

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/boris-johnson-caught-out-over-lies-about-turkey-in-channel-4-interview-1-5857836

 

And if you scroll down this page from the Vote Leave website it would appear that millions of them were bound for the UK.

 

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/why_vote_leave.html

 

Edited December 28, 2019 by Longcol

[apelike 10]

15 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

Not yet but we’ll soon see.

I agree that's why I said we should wait first.

[apelike 10]

15 hours ago, Longcol said:

So it's need that's the driver to work more than 48 hours rather than "can and want",

Unless we have got stats to prove that then its no..

 

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Or you could say "forced to" because the wage without large amounts of overtime is simply insufficient for a decent standard of living.

But that is not against the WTD though which is what people here seem to be complaining about in that the rules may change.

 

14 hours ago, altus said:

At best people are coerced into 'opting' out rather than being forced, but that doesn't make much difference in practice.

So people are complaining about the WTD being removed or changed when it is not working anyway. Strange that it was never compulsory to start with.

Edited December 28, 2019 by apelike

[apelike 10]

2 hours ago, melthebell said:

The whole brexit charade is built on project fear

But unlike the remain project fear this one seems to have worked.

[Baron99 779]

Watching the BBC News 24, "Dateline London", programme today, where they have foreign correspondents giving their views on the UK.  Speaking about the General Election result & the Brexit angle, US journalist / Telegraph journalist, Janet Daley, highlighted a point, that despite two strongly opposing sides in the Brexit debate, the 3 & half years plus of MP's delaying / disputing / denying the will of the electorate, despite the marches, the name calling on social media, the British people themselves didn't, unlike many other countries around the world, including our European neighbours, faced with similar political problems, consider out & out, physical assault on each other out on the streets. 

 

Coming from an outsider, think that's something we should all be proud of?