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[L00b 441]

14 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Applying a tax to women's sanitary products, a 'tampon tax', was a sovereign matter in the UK until 1973. After the UK joined the Common Market in 1973, a 17.5% Value Added Tax (VAT) was introduced on sanitary products, and EU law still forces women to pay a tax on this essential product in the UK while we have EU membership.

 

Sovereign UK matters have a habit of becoming EU powers. There is only one direction of travel, the EU needs all the powers it can get so it can transform into an empire.

 

...right, so, err...if I may briefly recap our exchange of the last few posts:

 

Car Boot "UK should not remain an EU member, because some of its contributions could end up funding a (hypothetical) EU military R&D budget"

 

L00b "when is the UK leaving NATO?" (since, you know, NATO=club with decades-long membership AND big military spending, with most of the NATO members countries being EU member countries as it happens)

 

Car Boot "when EU tells UK to leave NATO"

 

L00b "eh? NATO membership has nowt to do with EU membership, and even if it did, the UK is dropping its EU membership in two months anyway?"

 

Car Boot "VAT on tampons"

 

Debating with you is like trying to play chess with blancmange 

Edited November 22, 2019 by L00b

[L00b 441]

Just seen the Tories' manifesto about Brexit.

 

First it was "sunlit uplands"

 

Then a bit later, "there might be some bumps"

 

Now it's "we are really ambitious, we aim to rescue 80% of UK trade through FTAs in the next 3 years"

 

Looking good, lads, looking real good  

[apelike 10]

38 minutes ago, L00b said:

Just seen the Tories' manifesto about Brexit.

 

First it was "sunlit uplands"

 

Then a bit later, "there might be some bumps"

 

Now it's "we are really ambitious, we aim to rescue 80% of UK trade through FTAs in the next 3 years"

 

Looking good, lads, looking real good  

Is rescue the right word? as I'm sure in the manifesto it states "covered." 

Edited November 25, 2019 by apelike

[Robin-H 11]

37 minutes ago, L00b said:

Just seen the Tories' manifesto about Brexit.

 

First it was "sunlit uplands"

 

Then a bit later, "there might be some bumps"

 

Now it's "we are really ambitious, we aim to rescue 80% of UK trade through FTAs in the next 3 years"

 

Looking good, lads, looking real good  

Can you provide a link?  I can't see anywhere where it states the word rescued, but you've implied you are quoting something. What are you quoting? 

 

[Baron99 779]

Someone a bit over zealous? 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243

 

 

[Bargepole23 337]

More mentions of fishing in the manifesto than manufacturing, which gets 1 mention.

 

Fishing is worth about £1.4 billion per annum to the UK, and employs 24000.

 

According to Make UK (formerly EEF), UK manufacturing currently:

• employs 2.7 million people – earning an average of £32,500
• contributes 11% of GVA
• accounts for 45% of total exports – totalling £275bn
• represents 69% of business research and development (R&D)
• provides 13% of business investment

 

I don't understand the focus of Conservatives and Brexiteers on fishing, so any of you Conservative voters and/or Brexit voters care to explain. 

 

Car Boot, you must have an opinion on this?

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bargepole23

[Car Boot 10]

4 hours ago, L00b said:

Just seen the Tories' manifesto about Brexit.

 

First it was "sunlit uplands"

 

Then a bit later, "there might be some bumps"

 

Now it's "we are really ambitious, we aim to rescue 80% of UK trade through FTAs in the next 3 years"

 

Looking good, lads, looking real good  

This is what actually appears in the Tory election manifesto on Brexit:

 

"We aim to have  80 per cent of UK trade covered by free trade agreements within the next three years, starting with the USA, Australia, New Zealand and Japan."

 

You do realise that misrepresenting the facts around Leaving the EU proved disastrous for the Remain campaign and resulted in a majority voting to Leave? 

 

Those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Car Boot

[Car Boot 10]

Driver 'forced by Essex Police to remove Brexit slogan'

 

"Two anti-Brexit campaigners say they were pulled over on to the hard shoulder of the M25 and told by police to remove a slogan from their car. Passenger Peter Cook said the officer was "extremely aggressive" towards them over the phrase "(removed) to Brexit". "He said it [the slogan] was a public order offence, he insisted we remove the signage on the hard shoulder of the M25," said Mr Cook.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243

 

The police were concerned that an anti-democracy slogan used by affluent middle-class haters of the working class would likely cause alarm and distress to those who support democracy and freedom.

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Car Boot

[lottiecass 17]

6 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Driver 'forced by Essex Police to remove Brexit slogan'

 

"Two anti-Brexit campaigners say they were pulled over on to the hard shoulder of the M25 and told by police to remove a slogan from their car. Passenger Peter Cook said the officer was "extremely aggressive" towards them over the phrase "(removed) to Brexit". "He said it [the slogan] was a public order offence, he insisted we remove the signage on the hard shoulder of the M25," said Mr Cook.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243

 

The police were concerned that an anti-democracy slogan used by affluent middle-class haters of the working class would likely cause alarm and distress to those who support democracy and freedom.

 

Mr cook must be mad, I hope he parks it in a garage every time he gets out of it, its sure to at least get a smashed windscreen.

[Bargepole23 337]

2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

This is what actually appears in the Tory election manifesto on Brexit:

 

"We aim to have  80 per cent of UK trade covered by free trade agreements within the next three years, starting with the USA, Australia, New Zealand and Japan."

 

You do realise that misrepresenting the facts around Leaving the EU proved disastrous for the Remain campaign and resulted in a majority voting to Leave? 

 

Those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it.

If I were them, I would start with Europe. That place where we export 40% plus to.  Not sure why Australia and New Zealand are particular targets, we do next to no trade with them right now. Presume to appeal to the xenophobia of Brexiteers.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bargepole23

[Longcol 597]

2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

This is what actually appears in the Tory election manifesto on Brexit:

 

"We aim to have  80 per cent of UK trade covered by free trade agreements within the next three years, starting with the USA, Australia, New Zealand and Japan."

 

You do realise that misrepresenting the facts around Leaving the EU proved disastrous for the Remain campaign and resulted in a majority voting to Leave? 

 

Those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it.

So you are a Tory after all. Thought so 😎

[Longcol 597]

2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Driver 'forced by Essex Police to remove Brexit slogan'

 

"Two anti-Brexit campaigners say they were pulled over on to the hard shoulder of the M25 and told by police to remove a slogan from their car. Passenger Peter Cook said the officer was "extremely aggressive" towards them over the phrase "(removed) to Brexit". "He said it [the slogan] was a public order offence, he insisted we remove the signage on the hard shoulder of the M25," said Mr Cook.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243

 

The police were concerned that an anti-democracy slogan used by affluent middle-class haters of the working class would likely cause alarm and distress to those who support democracy and freedom.

 

I see you're still using the Johnson / Cummings method for reporting the news ie making it up 😎

 

Of course, on planet Car Boot, no working class people voted remain at all - despite the majority of Labour voters backing remain.