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[ads36 219]

oh, wait, what?

 

i thought the 13billion was per-year.

 

(that's really not very much)

 

but it's over a 7 year period ? and it's for research.

 

you don't get very much military research for 13billion, even less when it's 2billion per year.

 

so, no army then.

[Car Boot 10]

28 minutes ago, ads36 said:

oh, wait, what?

 

i thought the 13billion was per-year.

 

(that's really not very much)

 

but it's over a 7 year period ? and it's for research.

 

you don't get very much military research for 13billion, even less when it's 2billion per year.

 

so, no army then.

So the EU peace project spending €13 billion taken from social budgets on the research and development of “cutting-edge” weapons and military technology, and you don't believe that this is evidence of the increasing militarisation of the trading bloc?

 

Just a few short years ago any talk of an EU army was ridiculed as a "dangerous fantasy".  Now dangerous people at the top of the EU openly talk about creating an EU army and an EU Empire and have taken civilian funding to be used for arms research and development, militarism and war.

 

You couldn't make it up.

[L00b 441]

1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

When the EU instructs us to. 

How would it do so, when NATO membership is a sovereign matter for each of its member states?

 

And even if the EU had any influence howsoever in that respect (for the avoidance of doubt, per the above it doesn't, I'm just humouring you for a minute here) how would it do so, with Brexit happening in around two months' time?

 

You're really not thinking through that haranguing of yours, much 

25 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

So the EU peace project spending €13 billion taken from social budgets on the research and development of “cutting-edge” weapons and military technology, and you don't believe that this is evidence of the increasing militarisation of the trading bloc?

 

Just a few short years ago any talk of an EU army was ridiculed as a "dangerous fantasy".  Now dangerous people at the top of the EU openly talk about creating an EU army and an EU Empire and have taken civilian funding to be used for arms research and development, militarism and war.

 

You couldn't make it up.

Wait, wait, what? The EU has social budgets?

 

How is that, then, when according to you the EU is this baby-eating, billionaire-wet-dream capitalist monster?

[ads36 219]

 

30 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

and you don't believe that this is evidence of the increasing militarisation of the trading bloc?

if it's evidence of anything, it's that the EU isn't spending very much on military research.

 

talk of an eu army is not just 'fantasy', it's a fantasy without a budget.

 

Edited November 21, 2019 by ads36

[Car Boot 10]

1 hour ago, ads36 said:

 

if it's evidence of anything, it's that the EU isn't spending very much on military research.

 

talk of an eu army is not just 'fantasy', it's a fantasy without a budget.

 

Why should a trading bloc be spending €13 billion on researching and developing cutting edge military weapons and technology?

 

Why is a trading bloc developing weapons of war and becoming increasingly militarised?

 

Why is a trading bloc making noises about becoming an Empire?

Edited November 21, 2019 by Car Boot

[RJRB 688]

7 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Why should a trading bloc be spending €13 billion on researching and developing cutting edge military weapons and technology?

 

Why is a trading bloc developing weapons of war and becoming increasingly militarised?

 

Why is a trading bloc making noises about becoming an Empire?

Is it

1) To help replace weaponry currently produced in the UK

2) So that Europe can invade Russia and China

3) Because its many years since we had a Roman Emperor.

Or do you have other theories?

[Car Boot 10]

2 hours ago, L00b said:

How would it do so, when NATO membership is a sovereign matter for each of its member states?

 

And even if the EU had any influence howsoever in that respect (for the avoidance of doubt, per the above it doesn't, I'm just humouring you for a minute here) how would it do so, with Brexit happening in around two months' time?

 

You're really not thinking through that haranguing of yours, much 

Wait, wait, what? The EU has social budgets?

 

How is that, then, when according to you the EU is this baby-eating, billionaire-wet-dream capitalist monster?

Applying a tax to women's sanitary products, a 'tampon tax', was a sovereign matter in the UK until 1973. After the UK joined the Common Market in 1973, a 17.5% Value Added Tax (VAT) was introduced on sanitary products, and EU law still forces women to pay a tax on this essential product in the UK while we have EU membership.

 

Sovereign UK matters have a habit of becoming EU powers. There is only one direction of travel, the EU needs all the powers it can get so it can transform into an empire.

[Magilla 510]

10 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Applying a tax to women's sanitary products, a 'tampon tax', was a sovereign matter in the UK until 1973. After the UK joined the Common Market in 1973, a 17.5% Value Added Tax (VAT) was introduced on sanitary products, and EU law still forces women to pay a tax on this essential product in the UK while we have EU membership.

Accurate as ever. The VAT rate is 5%

 

10 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

 

Sovereign UK matters have a habit of becoming EU powers. There is only one direction of travel, the EU needs all the powers it can get so it can transform into an empire.

... and as usual, it's the exact opposite direction to which you claim.

 

The EC has already announced amendments to allow member states to set whatever rates they wish

[Car Boot 10]

The EU has torn this country apart.

 

Membership of this rich mans club is divisive and has fragmented society. For this alone we should Leave.

[Car Boot 10]

Just now, Magilla said:

Accurate as ever. The VAT rate is 5%

 

... and as usual, it's the exact opposite direction to which you claim.

 

The EC has already announced amendments to allow member states to set whatever rates they wish

When the UK joined the Common Market in 1973, a 17.5% Value Added tax was introduced for the first time on women's sanitary products. The rates of taxation has changed five times since 1973,  and was only lowered to 5 per cent after the year 2000.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-32883153

[Car Boot 10]

EU membership has deeply divided and fragmented our society.

 

The wealthy who mainly supported Remain feel enabled by our membership to openly pour out hatred and abuse against the poor who supported Leave. 

 

The EU - a force for division, hatred and a divided society.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Car Boot

[taxman 12]

31 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

EU membership has deeply divided and fragmented our society.

 

The wealthy who mainly supported Remain feel enabled by our membership to openly pour out hatred and abuse against the poor who supported Leave. 

 

The EU - a force for division, hatred and a divided society.

Lol...you really are beyond parody.

Another useful law now thrown in the rubbish bin because of this stupid Brexit obsession.

 

Legislation, named “Helen’s law” in her memory, was designed to require parole boards to take into account any refusal to provide information about remains when deciding about release but its passage through parliament has been halted due to the election.