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[Albert the Cat 0]

3 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Most of our pro-EU Remainer politicians desire an EU army to be the military might of an EU Empire.

 

Better Off OUT.

If we had an EU army, we wouldn’t have participated in an illegal war in Iraq. If there was an EU army, the conflict in the Balkans would have been resolved far quicker. 
 

Remainers are not going to apologise for wanting to create military force to ensure our freedoms and peace is preserved. Why would we really want an independent army anyway? Seriously, under what circumstances would we be better off to act unilaterally in an armed conflict?

 

The nuclear deterrent could be pooled with the French to form the ultimate guarantee against aggressors. Hell, if that happened, we would save billions for not needing to build and maintain such a system on our own. 

[Car Boot 10]

11 minutes ago, Albert the Cat said:

If we had an EU army, we wouldn’t have participated in an illegal war in Iraq. If there was an EU army, the conflict in the Balkans would have been resolved far quicker. 
 

Remainers are not going to apologise for wanting to create military force to ensure our freedoms and peace is preserved. Why would we really want an independent army anyway? Seriously, under what circumstances would we be better off to act unilaterally in an armed conflict?

 

The nuclear deterrent could be pooled with the French to form the ultimate guarantee against aggressors. Hell, if that happened, we would save billions for not needing to build and maintain such a system on our own. 

If we had an EU army, the EU Empire would be losing a war against the military might of Putin's Russia...

Edited October 11, 2019 by Car Boot

[Albert the Cat 0]

4 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

If we had an EU army, the EU Empire would be losing a war against the military might of Putin's Russia...

And we could win it on our own?

[Car Boot 10]

Just now, Albert the Cat said:

And we could win it on our own?

We aren't reckless or stupid enough to take on the second most powerful military force in the world.

 

The EU Empire certainly is.

[Pettytom 1]

2 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

We aren't reckless or stupid enough to take on the second most powerful military force in the world.

 

The EU Empire certainly is.

You’re amusing today.

 

Are you really claiming that an organisation that is instrumental in ensuring the longest period of peace in Europe, would start a war with Russia?

 

Seriously?

[Lockdoctor 10]

3 minutes ago, Albert the Cat said:

And we could win it on our own?

The UK are a member of NATO.  We haven't had a third World War mainly because of NATO and not the EU.  NATO ended the Balkans War not EU diplomacy  An EU army wouldn't be better than NATO.

[tinfoilhat 11]

9 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The UK are a member of NATO.  We haven't had a third World War mainly because of NATO and not the EU.  NATO ended the Balkans War not EU diplomacy  An EU army wouldn't be better than NATO.

Do you think the EU army would start more or less conflicts than a US led NATO?

[Lockdoctor 10]

4 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Do you think the EU army would start more or less conflicts than a US led NATO?

Depends who is in charge at the White House. Mistakes have been made in the past.  I think a US led NATO will be better to end conflicts than an EU army and are more likely to  deter a Third World War.

[RJRB 682]

4 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Depends who is in charge at the White House. Mistakes have been made in the past.  I think a US led NATO will be better to end conflicts than an EU army and are more likely to  deter a Third World War.

There are conflicts around the world,mainly as a result of disputed borders.We are fortunate that with the exception of Ireland and the factions that made up the old Yugoslavia,we have not had any major conflicts in Europe.

Ultimately these conflicts are only resolved with varying degrees of success by discussion and negotiations.

The EU has given us the forum to resolve disputes without resorting to armed conflict.

A combined European power would hopefully have a mediating influence on any future excesses involving Russia,America,and China.

To pursue the creation of new borders,both physical and economic flies in the face of history.Economic prosperity only thrives in settled countries,and Brexit is anything but constructive.

[Bargepole23 337]

45 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

We aren't reckless or stupid enough to take on the second most powerful military force in the world.

 

The EU Empire certainly is.

Again, any evidence for the state re the EU above?

 

You didn't answer the earlier request for evidence of your previous statement.

 

Shall we just assume you are making things up, purely for effect?

[Top Cats Hat 10]

1 hour ago, Albert the Cat said:

And we could win it on our own?

I suspect that Mr Car Boot would be on Putin’s side in any dispute.

 

[Car Boot 10]

2 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

Again, any evidence for the state re the EU above?

 

You didn't answer the earlier request for evidence of your previous statement.

 

Shall we just assume you are making things up, purely for effect?

Demonising Putin when it was the West that provoked the Ukraine crisis

 

"And still scarcely reported here have been the billions of dollars and euros the West has been more or less secretively pouring into Ukraine to promote the cause: not just to prop up its bankrupt government and banking system, but to fund scores of bogus “pro-European” groups making up what the EU calls “civil society”.

 

When the European Commission told a journalist that, between 2004 and 2013, these groups had only been given €31 million, my co-author Richard North was soon reporting on his EU Referendum blog that the true figure, shown on the commission’s own “Financial Transparency” website, was €496 million."

 

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/action-a-events/national-events/1298-fri-25-may-stop-the-war-cultural-event-dont-attack-iran-performers-include-mark-rylance-and-tony-benn

 

The EU dangerously provoked the conflict in Ukraine due to its reckless and remorseless drive for expansion. Now the EU has designs on becoming an Empire possessing cutting edge weapons of mass destruction, it's propaganda war will only intensify.

Edited October 11, 2019 by Car Boot