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Mod Note: As we are getting rather tired of seeing reports about this. The use of the word Remoaners  is to cease. Either posts like adults, or don't post at all. The mod warnings have been clear.

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In addition to remoaner we are also not going to allow the use of libdums or liebore - if you cannot behave like adults and post without recourse to these childish insults then please refrain from posting. If you have a problem with this then you all know where the helpdesk is. 

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17 hours ago, melthebell said:

Ermm not sure that you answered the quote correctly, I was talking about vetos and an eu army, nothing to do with the wishes of the people?? Unless you've changed the meaning.

Quite sure I did.  

 

I'll rephrase it for you.

 

If our sons or daughters/grandchildren are forced to be soldiers for a European Army, then it would be our fault for not getting out of this mess now.

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15 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Does any other EU country have an open land border with a disputed territory?

 

 

France/Catalonia/Spain?

 

14 hours ago, hobinfoot said:

 

So you’re saying that the EU is so great that no one should ever leave?

The EU is the Hotel California; you can check out but you can never leave .

 

10 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

This needed saying.

 

Just as many Leave voters did so because they were dissatisfied with there own lives and would rather blame anyone but themselves, they are now refusing to take responsibility for their own actions and blaming everyone but themselves for the mess we are in.

 

Wow Norman Tebbit is with us.  Water off a duck's back.  The poor are used to being blamed and paying the price for everyone else's mistakes, including the bankers' and the politicians'.

10 hours ago, Magilla said:

 

Aye.... until leavers have to wipe that egg off their faces....

What egg are you talking about?

 

10 hours ago, Pettytom said:

Parliament and this government are just a product of the will of the people. That is to say they are totally split. They are just doing their jobs. Parliament is doing a rather good job of representing the whole electorate.

 

The blame lies elsewhere. Cameron’s calamitous decision. Foreign interference in the referendum. The lies of Banks and his cronies. And, of course, those who voted to leave.

 

They must all take their share of the blame fir this catastrophe.

I think you need to cast your net a little wider.

 

 

10 hours ago, Pettytom said:

I already knew that you don’t agree with the last bit. And fair enough we can have a difference of opinion. From my point of view, if people had voted remain, we wouldn’t be in this mess. So the leave voters must take some responsibility.

Oh, you mean if the people had voted 'correctly'?!

 

Were you a big supporter of Mr Mugabe?

 

10 hours ago, Pettytom said:

We’re you around during the miners strike?

 

I had to travel from SY into Nottinghamshire every day. My car was stopped and searched regularly. It is not a pleasant experience.

Those damn miners, eh?  Should they have done as they were told as well?

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2 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

Wow Norman Tebbit is with us.  Water off a duck's back.  The poor are used to being blamed and paying the price for everyone else's mistakes, including the bankers' and the politicians'.

What egg are you talking about?

 Maybe he/she will find out when the 'yolk' is on him/her.:nod:

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3 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

I think you need to cast your net a little wider.

 

 

Oh, you mean if the people had voted 'correctly'?!

 

Were you a big supporter of Mr Mugabe?

I don’t care how people vote.

 

However, they do need to accept responsibility for their actions.

3 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

Those damn miners, eh?  Should they have done as they were told as well?

Absolutely not. I’m just pointing out the unpleasant nature of having your daily business disrupted by the authorities. 

 

Maybe read that bit bit of the thread again, eh.

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5 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

Those damn miners, eh?  Should they have done as they were told as well?

The union movement needed reigning back in the 80s. Thatcher could have picked any union to take head on to make an example of. The miners were by far the weakest and easiest to win against and the rest is history. 

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9 hours ago, Pettytom said:

High prices lead to high wages.

 

And vice versa.

 

Careful what you wish for. I do believe that you have just revealed the true motive of the extremist  Brexiters. 

You must really hate the minimum wage. 

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16 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

You must really hate the minimum wage. 

There is nothing wrong with the minimum wage as long as the parity between jobs are maintained. 

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7 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

If our sons or daughters/grandchildren are forced to be soldiers for a European Army, then it would be our fault for not getting out of this mess now.

While you're charging at windmills, don't forget those millions of Turks poised to invade the UK when Turkey joins the EU tomorrow  ;)

49 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

You must really hate the minimum wage. 

Are you expecting the minimum wage to survive a no deal Brexit?

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29 minutes ago, L00b said:

 

Are you expecting the minimum wage to survive a no deal Brexit?

Mr schoolboy socialist STILL doesnt seem to understand a tory brexit will lead to tories (yes they are still in charge) repealing whichever laws and rights they dont like.

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10 hours ago, apelike said:

No that is just a remainers idea and one portrayed in the media.

 

See above. I didn't and I know many others that didn't. Its that same as leavers being portrayed as racist or xenophobic just a popular sound bite for remainers to spout but not really true.

So when every poll of the reasons for voting in the referendum gave immigration as the #1 reason for leave voters, that is just a sound bite and not really true? 🤣

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9 hours ago, apelike said:

No that is just a remainers idea and one portrayed in the media.

 

See above. I didn't and I know many others that didn't. Its that same as leavers being portrayed as racist or xenophobic just a popular sound bite for remainers to spout but not really true.

I have no doubt at all that if those for whom the main reason for voting to leave was based on control of our borders and immigration,were to be excluded from the referendum figures,then there would not have been a majority to leave.

Very few will now admit to this viewpoint but it is so naive to deny it.

In the absence of this elephant in the room no one can come up with a compelling reason to leave the EU other than to spout vacuous nonsense about Sovereignty.

Whatever is the outcome we would have to look for the positives.

Should it be a No Deal then I need help from those who who support this to explain these positives.

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1 minute ago, RJRB said:

I have no doubt at all that if those for whom the main reason for voting to leave was based on control of our borders and immigration,were to be excluded from the referendum figures,then there would not have been a majority to leave.

Very few will now admit to this viewpoint but it is so naive to deny it.

In the absence of this elephant in the room no one can come up with a compelling reason to leave the EU other than to spout vacuous nonsense about Sovereignty.

Whatever is the outcome we would have to look for the positives.

Should it be a No Deal then I need help from those who who support this to explain these positives.

I can come up with a compelling reason to leave the EU, a really simple one as well. Because we had a vote, and 52% voted leave and 48% voted remain. It has a name as well, it is called Democracy, little understood by many on this forum it appears.

 

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