Leppings Lane Closure

[BigAl1 143]

I am still waiting for someone to answer the 4 questions I asked at #27

 

The fact that they remain unanswered says a lot about the contempt for the local community by the council, the police and the football club

[Jim Hardie 524]

46 minutes ago, amnicoll said:

I am still waiting for someone to answer the 4 questions I asked at #27

 

The fact that they remain unanswered says a lot about the contempt for the local community by the council, the police and the football club

Your questions in Post 27 were answered in Post 28 if you could be bothered to click on the link.

[BigAl1 143]

31 minutes ago, Jim Hardie said:

Your questions in Post 27 were answered in Post 28 if you could be bothered to click on the link.

which shows Leppings lane as being open which appears not to have been the case

[redbig 10]

On 30/08/2019 at 14:37, amnicoll said:

1. At what times will Penistone road be shut?

2. Where exactly will it be shut to traffic?

3. Where will traffic normally using penistone Road be diverted?

4. Where will traffic to and from Middlewood Road direction go if they are heading in or out of town assuming the tram gates remain closed and they can not go down Catchbar lane

 

 

1.  For up to an hour AFTER the match

2,  From the turn off to Herries Road to the junction (Used to be a round about)

3. Coming from town, traffic will be diverted up Herries road and then left past Radio Hallam

4. Not sure on this point

[Justin Smith 10]

On ‎29‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 17:52, shepcanon said:

Just heard on radio Sheffield that the council and swfc have agreed to close penistone rd for an hour after each match for the safety of the departing fans.

My wife got caught in this today, she`s normally a mild mannered sort but was absolutely fuming..... It took her an hour to drive what would normally take about 10 mins, apparently most of the north of Sheff was grid locked. It is absolutely ridiculous to shut Penistone road, the main route onto which all traffic in the north of Sheffield is deliberately funnelled  by the road system, for an hour, or, in fact any time at all.

I thought they shut the inside lane of Penistone Rd for half an hour or so around 4.45PM ? Why do they need to do more than that ?

 

But anyway, is this Health & Safety overkill or not ? How many fans have been killed / seriously injured / mildly injured whilst exiting the Hillsborough ground ?

Edited September 21, 2019 by Justin Smith

[FORE 12]

After the game the northbound Penistone rd traffic turns right up Herries road south.

 

Why oh why cannot there be a traffic cop encouraging that move when the lights are red. There is no traffic City bound from Penistone road up to that junction, it is blocked off.

[Funky_Gibbon 42]

1 hour ago, Justin Smith said:

My wife got caught in this today, she`s normally a mild mannered sort but was absolutely fuming..... It took her an hour to drive what would normally take about 10 mins, apparently most of the north of Sheff was grid locked. It is absolutely ridiculous to shut Penistone road, the main route onto which all traffic in the north of Sheffield is deliberately funnelled  by the road system, for an hour, or, in fact any time at all.

I thought they shut the inside lane of Penistone Rd for half an hour or so around 4.45PM ? Why do they need to do more than that ?

 

But anyway, is this Health & Safety overkill or not ? How many fans have been killed / seriously injured / mildly injured whilst exiting the Hillsborough ground ?

It's complete idiocy. The council employed some 'expert' to assess the health and safety of having home and away fans both leaving on to Leppings Lane. The game they assessed was the Sheffield Derby, the largest crowd and most volatile rivally in which there are inevitably a few idiots for the police to deal with. They then made assumptions that this situation happened in *every* game and recommended that home fans shouldn't leave via Leppings Lane like they have without any real problem for decades. Now almost all 24,000+ home fans have to leave via Penistone Road, with the entire North Stand being funnelled through one exit (a disaster waiting to happen), even if like today the away supporters number about 3 coach loads. The sensible thing to do would be to keep the away fans in their seats until the home fans have departed, as happened pretty much everywhere else in England, but apparently this is too difficult for SY Police and Sheffield Council.

 

So having forced another several thousand people to leave in the opposite direction to that which they want to leave (not great if you can't walk far) they forced them all out onto Penistone Road which unsurprisingly wasn't able to cope with the additional traffic and had even more people spilling out into the road. With the cars still moving it was a matter of time before an accident happened so the same geniuses that created the crisis in the first place have now decided to shut down all traffic on that stretch of Penistone Road and instead divert the traffic from the four lanes of a dual carriageway via the two lanes of Herries Road and they wonder why it's causing gridlock.

Edited September 21, 2019 by Funky_Gibbon

[Justin Smith 10]

11 hours ago, Funky_Gibbon said:

It's complete idiocy. The council employed some 'expert' to assess the health and safety of having home and away fans both leaving on to Leppings Lane. The game they assessed was the Sheffield Derby, the largest crowd and most volatile rivally in which there are inevitably a few idiots for the police to deal with. They then made assumptions that this situation happened in *every* game and recommended that home fans shouldn't leave via Leppings Lane like they have without any real problem for decades. Now almost all 24,000+ home fans have to leave via Penistone Road, with the entire North Stand being funnelled through one exit (a disaster waiting to happen), even if like today the away supporters number about 3 coach loads. The sensible thing to do would be to keep the away fans in their seats until the home fans have departed, as happened pretty much everywhere else in England, but apparently this is too difficult for SY Police and Sheffield Council.

 

So having forced another several thousand people to leave in the opposite direction to that which they want to leave (not great if you can't walk far) they forced them all out onto Penistone Road which unsurprisingly wasn't able to cope with the additional traffic and had even more people spilling out into the road. With the cars still moving it was a matter of time before an accident happened so the same geniuses that created the crisis in the first place have now decided to shut down all traffic on that stretch of Penistone Road and instead divert the traffic from the four lanes of a dual carriageway via the two lanes of Herries Road and they wonder why it's causing gridlock.

So has an accident ever occurred ? And if so how serious was it / were they ?

[Justin Smith 10]

12 hours ago, FORE said:

After the game the northbound Penistone rd traffic turns right up Herries road south.

 

Why oh why cannot there be a traffic cop encouraging that move when the lights are red. There is no traffic City bound from Penistone road up to that junction, it is blocked off.

Actually two would be even better, because the other one could be letting cars through the lights when they were on green for Pensitone road which, of course, has no soddin` vehicles coming out of it.......

The reason is that the powers that be are not concerned with the stress and frustration caused to motorists. This is exactly the same reason that road works, even those which inconvenience literally thousands of people every day, still seem to be worked on as a single shift when they should be working at least a double shift from about 7.00AM to about 10.00PM seven days a week. I`d say 24hours a day but one does have to have some sympathy with people living nearby who may need some sleep !

 

 * other than on motorways

[BigAl1 143]

have they re timed the traffic lights to facilitate the diverted traffic so at least there are not red lights when there is no traffic because of the closed road?

[rudds1 102]

27 minutes ago, amnicoll said:

have they re timed the traffic lights to facilitate the diverted traffic so at least there are not red lights when there is no traffic because of the closed road?

I’m sure planner 1 will come and explain why that can’t be done for an hour or two on one day a fortnight due to costs etc 

[BigAl1 143]

25 minutes ago, rudds1 said:

I’m sure planner 1 will come and explain why that can’t be done for an hour or two on one day a fortnight due to costs etc 

No doubt that is why the phrase Intelligent Traffic Management is no longer used

 

Even if it were "too difficult" half a brain would say there are loads of police and stewards hanging around and perhaps you could turn off the lights (cover them up ) and have someone directing the traffic like they used to do in olden days