banjodeano   26 #61 Posted August 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Branyy said: Unfortunately, they will never be. But at least we are the same in the eyes of law, aren't we? I very much doubt it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #62 Posted August 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, banjodeano said: I very much doubt it.. Then we should work on it. And one of the steps would be to use the same treatment for criminals of all races. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   26 #63 Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Branyy said: Then we should work on it. And one of the steps would be to use the same treatment for criminals of all races. Not when it mimics slavery we shouldn't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #64 Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, banjodeano said: Not when it mimics slavery we shouldn't I disagree. Putting jew criminals into prison uniforms might resemble holocaust to someone. Where do you want to draw the line? Acknowledge the past but ensure equal treatment for everyone in the present. Edited August 8, 2019 by Branyy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   26 #65 Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Branyy said: I disagree. Putting jew criminals into prison uniforms might resemble holocaust to someone. Where do you want to draw the line? Acknowledge the past but ensure equal treatment for everyone in the present. I agree, equal treatment for everyone that does not mimic slavery, when it mimics slavery it has to be stopped, as in this case they acknowledged that and apologised for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #66 Posted August 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, banjodeano said: I agree, equal treatment for everyone that does not mimic slavery, when it mimics slavery it has to be stopped, as in this case they acknowledged that and apologised for it I still disagree - resemblance to slavery is highly subjective. Also, why just slavery? As I've suggested above - why didn't you include mimicking of holocaust? What about arresting of native americans? That would always mimic the conquest of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   26 #67 Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, gaz 786 said: I never thought about it that way at least the prisoner was brought to justice unharmed and hopefully given a fair trial To be honest, even if it was a white man it doesn't look good, what a derogatory way to arrest someone, don't you look at it and feel it isn't right? And this from the county that sees itself as the worlds policemen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #68 Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, banjodeano said: To be honest, even if it was a white man it doesn't look good, what a derogatory way to arrest someone, don't you look at it and feel it isn't right? And this from the county that sees itself as the worlds policemen If I saw that in person, I would view it as a resemblance to a western movie and probably chuckle, to be honest. But again, I'm not an expert on mounted police maneuvers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   26 #69 Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Branyy said: I still disagree - resemblance to slavery is highly subjective. Also, why just slavery? As I've suggested above - why didn't you include mimicking of holocaust? What about arresting of native americans? That would always mimic the conquest of them. Because we are not talking about the holocaust or the Indians are we, 2 minutes ago, Branyy said: If I saw that in person, I would view it as a resemblance to a western movie and probably chuckle, to be honest. But again, I'm not an expert on mounted police maneuvers Chuckle? Then you have seriously something wrong.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #70 Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, banjodeano said: Because we are not talking about the holocaust or the Indians are we, But you're trying to set conditions for exceptions from equality. And I'm just proposing consequences of your logic.  3 minutes ago, banjodeano said: Chuckle? Then you have seriously something wrong.. Sense of humor is also very subjective Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   26 #71 Posted August 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Branyy said: But you're trying to set conditions for exceptions from equality. And I'm just proposing consequences of your logic.  Sense of humor is also very subjective Because it is totally irrelevant to what we are talking about.. Can you explain how you find a black man being led by a horse with a rope funny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #72 Posted August 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Branyy said: I still disagree - resemblance to slavery is highly subjective. Also, why just slavery? As I've suggested above - why didn't you include mimicking of holocaust? What about arresting of native americans? That would always mimic the conquest of them. A policeman dragging a black person on a rope via horseback is not subjective in resemblance to slavery and/or the oppression of black americans.  Your comparison with jewish people is also flawed - a meaningful comparison would be making jewish prisoners wear uniforms which directly resemble those in concentration camps - which there would also rightly be called into question. Suggesting that anyone wearing a prison uniform is mimicking the holocaust is wrong.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...