Thorpist   72 #25 Posted August 6, 2019 Speaking of fish, trawlers inflict unbelievable cruelty on fish.Crushing and suffocating come to mind.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #26 Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, melthebell said: Technically in this debate, it's about animals being killed for meat. dairy etc is a whole other kettle of fish Not really. Chez raised a fair point.  The dairy industry involves the slaughter of thousands of calves, so it is fair to say that milk is murder. (And butter, and cheese). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ontarian1981   10 #27 Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, melthebell said: Technically in this debate, it's about animals being killed for meat. dairy etc is a whole other kettle of fish Or bucket of milk perhaps? 😋 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #28 Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Pettytom said: Not really. Chez raised a fair point.  The dairy industry involves the slaughter of thousands of calves, so it is fair to say that milk is murder. (And butter, and cheese). but halal threads (despite halal also covering all foods) always revolves around the murder of animals for meat (stunning / versus not stunning etc) which is separate to killing calves due to milk. which is why vegetarianism was brought up. Edited August 6, 2019 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   812 #29 Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: As per the topic, should all meats and all meat products containing Halal and Shechita slaughtered meats be labelled to allow people like myself who disagree with these methods, to be able to avoid their purchase.  I have indeed written to the Government on several occasions over the acts, but knitting fog would give better results.  Angel1. Your history of sticking up for animal rights are a bit selective.  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/325204-animal-cruelty-at-the-hands-of-pig-farmers/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5988734  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/322469-wantedshooting-permission-for-land/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5934001  Edited August 6, 2019 by Mister Gee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #30 Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: You history of sticking up for animal rights are a bit selective.  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/325204-animal-cruelty-at-the-hands-of-pig-farmers/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5988734  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/322469-wantedshooting-permission-for-land/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5934001  Maybe he pre-stuns things before he shoots them and guts them. Edited August 6, 2019 by Pettytom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   812 #31 Posted August 6, 2019 28 minutes ago, Pettytom said: Maybe he pre-stuns things before he shots them and guts them. I await a response from our resident Elmer J. Fudd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #32 Posted August 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: I await a response from our resident Elmer J. Fudd? Probs out hunting wabbits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #33 Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mister Gee said: Your history of sticking up for animal rights are a bit selective.  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/325204-animal-cruelty-at-the-hands-of-pig-farmers/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5988734  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/322469-wantedshooting-permission-for-land/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5934001  Ha ha brilliant mister gee take a bow.  halal is unnecessary cruel - shooting animals for fun is ok........  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #34 Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mister Gee said: Your history of sticking up for animal rights are a bit selective.  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/325204-animal-cruelty-at-the-hands-of-pig-farmers/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5988734  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/322469-wantedshooting-permission-for-land/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5934001  Ouch! Nice one.  One wonders if it only bothers them when it comes to religions or a specific (cough/ Islam) religion. Edited August 6, 2019 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   812 #35 Posted August 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said: Ouch! Nice one.  One wonders if it only bothers them when it comes to religions or a specific (cough/ Islam) religion. Aye, on the money.  Regards, Mister Gee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
carosio   186 #36 Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Pettytom said: Not really. Chez raised a fair point.  The dairy industry involves the slaughter of thousands of calves, so it is fair to say that milk is murder. (And butter, and cheese). I'm just going to murder a cheese sandwich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...