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Wonder if we are going to have to take out insurance for our health care the way things are going... Like the USA for example. 

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Depends how much longer the Torys are in cutting budgets I suppose.

 

Need rid of Corbyn really, Labour won't get into power with that clown in charge.

Put someone decent in the top seat, sweep the Torys aside at an election and sort out the funding crisis, that will mean tax rises though but it's gotta be done.

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Given my recent experience with the nhs I can say that despite the best efforts of most of the staff, it’s falling apart at the seams.

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3 hours ago, gaz 786 said:

Wonder if we are going to have to take out insurance for our health care the way things are going... Like the USA for example. 

Or Switzerland, or France.. 

2 hours ago, geared said:

Depends how much longer the Torys are in cutting budgets I suppose.

 

Need rid of Corbyn really, Labour won't get into power with that clown in charge.

Put someone decent in the top seat, sweep the Torys aside at an election and sort out the funding crisis, that will mean tax rises though but it's gotta be done.

How much have the Tory's cut from the NHS budget? 

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3 hours ago, gaz 786 said:

Wonder if we are going to have to take out insurance for our health care the way things are going... Like the USA for example. 

i think for quite a few areas of the NHS there should be an element of insurance to cover various things, elective surgery, cosmetic, treatment needed due to sporting mishaps, for instance if you are going skiing you need to take out extra cover.

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3 hours ago, gaz 786 said:

Wonder if we are going to have to take out insurance for our health care the way things are going... Like the USA for example. 

I’ve paid NATIONAL Insurance all my working life, as my part of the deal towards the NATIONAL Health Service.

 

What’s changed?

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4 hours ago, gaz 786 said:

Wonder if we are going to have to take out insurance for our health care the way things are going... Like the USA for example. 

Corbyn in his reply to Boris's statement in Parliament this dinner time asked the question you are implying and challenged the PM to  tell us if the NHS will be safe re  Trumps "all things are on the table" when discussing trade deals. To Conservative whoops of joy the PM stated that the NHS is NOT, repeat NOT up for sale in any trade deals. So worry not and cancel your private insurance, it's safe in the hands of the Tory's. Unless the PM is telling lies in his first address to Parliament.

 

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2 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Corbyn in his reply to Boris's statement in Parliament this dinner time asked the question you are implying and challenged the PM to  tell us if the NHS will be safe re  Trumps "all things are on the table" when discussing trade deals. To Conservative whoops of joy the PM stated that the NHS is NOT, repeat NOT up for sale in any trade deals. So worry not and cancel your private insurance, it's safe in the hands of the Tory's. Unless the PM is telling lies in his first address to Parliament.

 

Angel1.

I'm Boris wouldnt lie. Except when he does, which is most of time if it suits him. If you buy that the NHS is off the table on a US trade deal (given they've already forced out our US ambassador and threatened to stop any trade deal unless we drop Huawei) you are easily led.

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4 hours ago, Eater Sundae said:

I’ve paid NATIONAL Insurance all my working life, as my part of the deal towards the NATIONAL Health Service.

 

What’s changed?

Not enough people contributing National Insurance all their working life.  Some haven't for decades but still drain the NHS services without a care in the world.

 

There has been an ever increasing number of service users and the extent of the NHS offering is now significantly more than the position which was originally intended or even designed.

 

Add on a increase in hypochondriacs, malingerers, self inflicted conditions and litigants and its clear that there is never enough going in the pot than what is being drained out.

 

Something has to give.    People are all too quick to blame the government but is all too simplistic.  Yes, obviously cuts have had an impact and Yes, some of those cuts were probably ill judged but we the people are just as guilty of taking it for granted and not being prepared to sufficiently contribute or mitigate our own affairs to stop having to rely on their service in the first place.

 

I think someone earlier suggested sending a copy of the bill to people after they have received even the modest of treatment.   I would completely support such a move -  I am in the fortunate position of having some elements of private healthcare, and even though I dont pay I see the bills.  When its printed there in black and white it really does drum into you exactly how much medical care costs and how lucky we are of any kind of "free at source" healthcare provision.    

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10 hours ago, gaz 786 said:

Wonder if we are going to have to take out insurance for our health care the way things are going... Like the USA for example. 

Bloody hope not , that would be disgusting 

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Why would it?    Healthcare costs money.

 

Doctors dont work for free and supplies and equipment isn't paid for by fairy dust.

 

I have explained above that NI contributions (from those who pay them) are never enough.   I have explained above how the NHS organisation has been bloated into the bottomless money pit it is today - something well beyond what can reasonably deemed essential healthcare provsions.

 

Its overused.  Its oversubscribed.  Its totally taken for granted.   Its wholly underfunded by the very people who leach funds out of it.

 

With exception of those with permanent life dibilitating disabilities - what exactly is wrong with stripping "the NHS" service down to absolute essentials and having some kind of insurance provision or at the very least some market rate contribution to cover everything else.     People should take responsiblity for themselves more. 

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