BigAl1   142 #37 Posted August 7, 2019 nationalisation will only be as good as its management and shareholder and as above without adequate funding it will make little difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Fudbeer   12 #38 Posted August 7, 2019 I guess the question is if a fortune was spent improving services with modern buses and more regular services would people leave their car at home?  Maybe some would but I bet the majority would still use their car and many of those services would not be used.  Previously before the major cuts a few years ago some services which had buses "every 8,9.10 minutes" saw many buses running close to empty.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bubbleburp   0 #39 Posted August 8, 2019 I've just seen "proposed" timetable for the number 32 ... which is due to replace the number 35 from 1st of September.  I'm just wondering how many passengers who DID use the number 35 route to get to work and home again have been informed that as well as the evening service ending earlier , WE NO LONGER HAVE A SUNDAY SERVICE !!!  Kept that quiet while they were yet again juggling this route  AGAIN... !!! Not many will be aware I'll bet 😟😡 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest busdriver1 Â Â #40 Posted August 8, 2019 On 05/08/2019 at 09:10, bassett one said: i have heard first buses are being sold off soon,that will make even more changes All of First is in theory up for sale. The recent sale of Manchester has seen relatively little change. They are unfortunately in a PTEÂ area as well so political interference is rife there as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest busdriver1   #41 Posted August 8, 2019 On 07/08/2019 at 09:59, amnicoll said: nationalisation will only be as good as its management and shareholder and as above without adequate funding it will make little difference Nationalisation will only be s good as the remit they are given to work under. Good or bad management is secondary. Funding is never going to be forthcoming under the present or even any future governments.  The perfect model would have been to implement the original plan where all the PTE operations would have been merged in to the then NBC to give a nationwide operation rather than the multitude of glaas walls created under PTE operations. NBC was without a doubt the finest bus operator of that era managing to cross subsidise not just services but operating companies all over the uk. They then negotiated local deals with the local authorities to top up what they offered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Retro Queen   1 #42 Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Bubbleburp said: I've just seen "proposed" timetable for the number 32 ... which is due to replace the number 35 from 1st of September.  I'm just wondering how many passengers who DID use the number 35 route to get to work and home again have been informed that as well as the evening service ending earlier , WE NO LONGER HAVE A SUNDAY SERVICE !!!  Kept that quiet while they were yet again juggling this route  AGAIN... !!! Not many will be aware I'll bet 😟😡 Oh no, I was hoping the 32 route being better once First take it over. At the moment its run by TM Travel and the service does end at 7.00 pm and doesn't exist on Sundays. I've not as yet known First to run a service like this so I hope it would be improved. Seems I was dreaming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bubbleburp   0 #43 Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) The change of operator is the other way around ...... The No. 35 First service has been withdrawn and part of that route has been incorporated by TMTravel into the No.32 route ..... unfortunately !! Edited August 9, 2019 by Bubbleburp Added text Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Andy C   85 #44 Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Bubbleburp said: The change of operator is the other way around ...... The No. 35 First service has been withdrawn and part of that route has been incorporated by TMTravel into the No.32 route ..... unfortunately !! First have won the new contract for the 32. This is a route tendered by SYPTE and operated to their specification with public subsidy, as it doesn't see enough paying passengers to be commercially viable.  Many of the new timetables are now available to download at https://travelsouthyorkshire.com/servicechanges/ Edited August 10, 2019 by Andy C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Retro Queen   1 #45 Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Andy C said: First have won the new contract for the 32. This is a route tendered by SYPTE and operated to their specification with public subsidy, as it doesn't see enough paying passengers to be commercially viable.  Many of the new timetables are now available to download at https://travelsouthyorkshire.com/servicechanges/ I can't see people who live on Shirecliffe (as well as other areas no doubt) not using this bus as at Shirecliffe its the only one they have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Andy C Â Â 85 #46 Posted August 11, 2019 Bus 18 will also serve Shirecliffe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Retro Queen   1 #47 Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Andy C said: Bus 18 will also serve Shirecliffe But will it go into town? The 38 and 38a doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ Â Â 1,988 #48 Posted August 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Retro Queen said: But will it go into town? The 38 and 38a doesn't. According to the timetable - yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...