Jump to content

Councils Charging Householders To Dump Waste.

Recommended Posts

It is, but you asked what can be done about items too big into a black bin and I suggested some ideas.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Cyclone said:

Hang on, if I swap out my toilet seat today, you're telling me that it's construction and demolition waste and not something that I should expect to be able to dump for free at a council site as a private householder?

The point of me asking about those items was this though.  That Chez says that they are not household waste, they are construction and demolition waste and so the council has no obligation to deal with them.

11 hours ago, Cyclone said:

We were talking about the local tip, where you take your old furniture and broken TV, perhaps some garden waste, or large cardboard packaging.

10 hours ago, Chez2 said:

Oh but they are talking about C&D waste. The link in the original post mentions a toilet seat. DIY waste is construction demolition waste, as is anything you usually leave in place when you move house eg kitchen, bathroom, fitted cupboards, electrical fittings etc. 

And then I question the toilet seat which you point out can be put into a black bin...  Hence other examples that definitely won't fit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One way to look at it is, is it a 'fixture or a fitting'? A sink is obviously a fitting (part of the house), but a dryer could be but is free standing and moveable so could be classified as "household" waste.

 

At one time everything and anything, apart from nuclear waste would be taken and buried in the land tips, now they're classifying (and charging for) everything they can.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Reading the original article, it appears that central government isn't happy with the fact that they're charging...  But of course central government brought it on by cutting the budgets of local councils to the bone.

 

Quote

A Defra spokesman said last night: ‘We have been clear that disposing of household waste, including waste from DIY home improvement projects, should be free of charge. That is why we are planning to review current rules. Where local authorities do charge people to get rid of non-household items at household waste recycling centres, they must make sure charges are proportionate and clear to understand.’

Quote

Meanwhile, waste collectors for South Gloucestershire plan to start searching public bins to check if people are throwing away rubbish that should have gone into their own household refuse. Anyone doing this could face a £200 fine.

And that last quote, how will that work?  How do they decide that something should have gone into your household bin rather than a public bin?  And how exactly on searching a public bin at some point will they then know who put something in it?  Unless you throw away paperwork with your name and address on it of course...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

Reading the original article, it appears that central government isn't happy with the fact that they're charging...  But of course central government brought it on by cutting the budgets of local councils to the bone.

 

And that last quote, how will that work?  How do they decide that something should have gone into your household bin rather than a public bin?  And how exactly on searching a public bin at some point will they then know who put something in it?  Unless you throw away paperwork with your name and address on it of course...

Not sure, apart from some official catching them in the act or secretly filming at those bins which are prone to it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

It is nonsense to suggest that items like a toilet seat or a an old kitchen sink is C & D waste. Only someone with an agenda would make such a comment.

 

Regarding austerity-

Quote:

"Let’s start with a fact that should be on billboards across the land. As a proportion of GDP, Britain’s national debt has been higher than it is now for 200 of the past 250 years. Read that sentence again. Check it on any graph by any historian."

 

Source from link posted in post No26

 

So it would appear that austerity is an unnecessary drop in the ocean in terms of effect.

 

Edited by Janus

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

You aren't suggesting I get a skip in to dispose of toilet seat are you? How would I dispose of one?

If you have other waste then yes. If not then take it to a waste disposal site. The waste has to be paid for so why should you get it disposed of for free? 

5 hours ago, Cyclone said:

Hang on, if I swap out my toilet seat today, you're telling me that it's construction and demolition waste and not something that I should expect to be able to dump for free at a council site as a private householder?

Yes, of course its construction demolition waste.  Look up the definition of fixtures and fittings and construction demolition waste. 

54 minutes ago, Janus said:

It is nonsense to suggest that items like a toilet seat or a an old kitchen sink is C & D waste. Only someone with an agenda would make such a comment.

 

Regarding austerity-

Quote:

"Let’s start with a fact that should be on billboards across the land. As a proportion of GDP, Britain’s national debt has been higher than it is now for 200 of the past 250 years. Read that sentence again. Check it on any graph by any historian."

 

Source from link posted in post No26

 

So it would appear that austerity is an unnecessary drop in the ocean in terms of effect.

 

Agenda; really?  Don't let a small issue of facts come in to it. I certainly don't make the rules, try looking up the facts and you will find it isn't my suggestion. 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Post the link up then we see just how unjust the local authorities are being

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Chez2 said:

If you have other waste then yes. If not then take it to a waste disposal site. The waste has to be paid for so why should you get it disposed of for free? 

Yes, of course its construction demolition waste.  Look up the definition of fixtures and fittings and construction demolition waste. 

Agenda; really?  Don't let a small issue of facts come in to it. I certainly don't make the rules, try looking up the facts and you will find it isn't my suggestion. 

 

 

I haven’t got any other waste. I have a toilet seat. How much to dispose of a toilet seat?

 

As a point of reference I can dispose of oil, rubble and topsoil at my local tip, 50kg of plasterboard (!) and two sheets of asbestos  (!!!!!!!!!) all for free but not, according to you, a toilet seat.

 

I know you have the inside specialist knowledge on this subject but surely you can see how it looks to the rest of us mortals.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just remind me again though why having to pay for a service justifies dumping rubbish ?

 

I use the same waste disposal as others - 2 x 25kg bags of ballast or demolition rubble per week. I had 6 bags to get rid of.

went in my car Saturday morning with 2 bags and some other stuff,sleeper offcuts etc, went late that afternoon with 2 more in my wifes car and some other stuff.

Went Sunday - start of the new week to me - and dumped the last two with some other stuff.

 

Now had i paid someone to remove all the rubble at the same time, i bet there's a 50/50 chance of it being flytipped.

 

I did observe someone from Mangala cafe depositing numerous bin bags in the public waste bin across the road last night whilst i was stuck at the non working traffic lights. Rather that than it left around the place.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Cyclone said:

Reading the original article, it appears that central government isn't happy with the fact that they're charging...  But of course central government brought it on by cutting the budgets of local councils to the bone.

 

And that last quote, how will that work?  How do they decide that something should have gone into your household bin rather than a public bin?  And how exactly on searching a public bin at some point will they then know who put something in it?  Unless you throw away paperwork with your name and address on it of course...

It will be crazy if we are to be told what we can and cant do by dust binmen, we only get a collection every two weeks, how much longer will it take if they have to check every bin in the street?, ridiculous!, dictated to by the least skilled people in the country!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.