Speed Limit On Sheffield Parkway Set To Be Cut?

[ECCOnoob 1,017]

41 minutes ago, Padders said:

So a learner driver, driving at 24 mph on his test would fail.

 

A learner driver racing round at 30 mph would pass.

 

find that very strange.

Strange or not in your opinion, it IS a testing point that an examiner will look at and people (including myself) have failed for not maintaining progression and driving at an inappropriate speed.

 

That will of course depend on the speed limit, road conditions and examiner. 

 

A driver doing 30mph in a 30mph area is not "racing around" as you stupidly put it.  They are driving at the limit as allowed to do so along with the vast majority of other traffic in the area.

 

A driver who is doing early 20s mph in a 30mph limit is unlikely to be keeping pace with other traffic and thus is also likely to be causing other cars behind them to be forcebly slowed down and build up.    That may be seen as a hazard.   That may be seen as a failure to maintain appropriate control and speed.   That may be deemed a failure point. 

 

Yes of course there are exceptions for bad weather or large trade vehicles or heavy loads etc... but a driving test is supposed to be about testing competent and safe driving skills for a normal driver in a normal vehicle in an average road condition.

 

The key point in all of this is driving at an appropriate speed.     Too fast is of course dangerous but, despite what idiots protest,  also just as dangerous is too slow. 

 

Its a real shame that the minimum speeds are not more widespread in this country as they are on the continent.  That would solve a lot of these issues and put certain 'high and mighty' dawdling wheel shuffler types down a peg or two.

 

[Guest]

On 11/07/2019 at 10:03, Annie Bynnol said:

This cannot and does not happen at any speed and for many obvious reasons.

 

I said IF Annie, IF, it is theoretically possible.

On 12/07/2019 at 13:58, redbig said:

So if you're going 90mph you can react to things the same as if you were doing 50mph ?? Baffling

The reaction time doesn't change, you just travel further in the time it takes to react. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Padders said:

A learner driver racing round at 30 mph would pass.

If the speed limit is 30mph and the learner is doing 30mph what do you see as the problem here exactly? Whilst not to be seen as a target, there is nothing wrong with driving at 30mph in a 30mph zone.

[Padders 2,840]

4 minutes ago, probedb said:

If the speed limit is 30mph and the learner is doing 30mph what do you see as the problem here exactly? Whilst not to be seen as a target, there is nothing wrong with driving at 30mph in a 30mph zone.

Your a learner taking your test, you should be trying to impress the examiner, show him your skills, considerate and careful driving.

I don"t think the examiner would be impressed if you were hurtling along at 30.

[WiseOwl182 10]

1 hour ago, Padders said:

Your a learner taking your test, you should be trying to impress the examiner, show him your skills, considerate and careful driving.

I don"t think the examiner would be impressed if you were hurtling along at 30.

"Hurtling along at 30"?! Are you for real? I think the examiner would indeed be impressed by the driver sticking to the speed limit whilst not causing an obstruction or hazard to other road users.

[redbig 10]

1 hour ago, probedb said:

The reaction time doesn't change, you just travel further in the time it takes to react. 

Rubbish. You don't spot it because you're going too fast, hence your reaction time is slower.

 

The road is full of them, terrible drivers, where are they going that's so important? 

 

Even see some idiots get off the parkway at Matalan going into town (in rush hour) just to rejoin and beat 6 cars. 

[ECCOnoob 1,017]

1 hour ago, Padders said:

Your a learner taking your test, you should be trying to impress the examiner, show him your skills, considerate and careful driving.

I don"t think the examiner would be impressed if you were hurtling along at 30.

Showing him your skills as you put it is demonstrating that you can competently drive at an appropriate speed for the road conditions. 

 

Do you think that examiner would be impressed by some deliberately being overcautious and driving slowly?   How exactly is that demonstrating competent driving skills?

 

What about if said learner was being over cautious and decides to trundle along at 40mph on a 60-70mph dual carraigeway?    I take it that is perfectly accepted on your planet.

 

 

2 minutes ago, redbig said:

Rubbish. You don't spot it because you're going too fast, hence your reaction time is slower.

 

The road is full of them, terrible drivers, where are they going that's so important? 

 

Even see some idiots get off the parkway at Matalan going into town (in rush hour) just to rejoin and beat 6 cars. 

Good for them. 

 

They are 6 cars ahead at the next junction and could likely get through the next set of lights one change ahead than they otherwise would have done which will mean they can get through the next set one change ahead and soforth.

 

Getting those 6 cars ahead may get them in front of that bus which is almost ready to depart or that truck which was just about to start its reverse into a side road orthat level crossing which was almost ready to come down.....

 

What exactly is the problem?

[darylslinn 10]

2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Showing him your skills as you put it is demonstrating that you can competently drive at an appropriate speed for the road conditions. 

 

Do you think that examiner would be impressed by some deliberately being overcautious and driving slowly?   How exactly is that demonstrating competent driving skills?

 

What about if said learner was being over cautious and decides to trundle along at 40mph on a 60-70mph dual carraigeway?    I take it that is perfectly accepted on your planet.

 

 

Good for them. 

 

They are 6 cars ahead at the next junction and could likely get through the next set of lights one change ahead than they otherwise would have done which will mean they can get through the next set one change ahead and soforth.

 

Getting those 6 cars ahead may get them in front of that bus which is almost ready to depart or that truck which was just about to start its reverse into a side road orthat level crossing which was almost ready to come down.....

 

What exactly is the problem?

The way they go hurtling through the Matalan / Burger King / Greggs car park and then barging their way in.... why do they need to do that ?
And then instead of waiting to go right along the Derek Dooley Way they hurtle down to Park Square, rat run towards the Wicker and along Nursery Street only to be beaten by the car that was in front of them at the Nursery Street lights.... but hey ho if they want to waste their fuel all for trying to save a few second in which case they actually haven't it's up to them.

As a regular driver along that route at the same time every morning you begin to take a mental note of these vehicles and it's the same ones nearly everyday !

That said i've not seen many trucks reversing into side roads off the Parkway or level crossings for that matter..... maybe if we go back 60 years to that area we'd see the odd railway track !

[Phili Buster 10]

16 hours ago, rogets said:

I do think the parkway needs a toll, maybe £5 per car

 

To help combat climate change

Future generations will not forgive us if we don't act now

Why only a £5 toll?   To help combat climate change then why not a fine on people with flatulence? 

[PRESLEY 1,222]

50 minutes ago, Phili Buster said:

Why only a £5 toll?   To help combat climate change then why not a fine on people with flatulence? 

That would surely create a Windfall.  

[Resident 1,185]

17 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

Err get banned for life for driving 5mph under,  oh yeh thats far more serious than killing someone. 

Slow drivers also cause accidents & fatalities 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1064849/UK-Road-death-figures-slow-drivers-department-for-Transport

[PRESLEY 1,222]

24 minutes ago, Resident said:

Slow drivers also cause accidents & fatalities 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1064849/UK-Road-death-figures-slow-drivers-department-for-Transport

Did you read the part where it said driving like a snail causes accidents and so does driving like a cheetah,   Ive never in my post mentioned people should drive at snail pace.  I say the danger with driving too fast  gives less time to correct any type errors that a speeding driver may encounter.  Flippinhell its common sense.  Take your time. Best to get to your destination in one piece rather than not at all,  who cares if your late for an appointment which is actually down to  your own bad- time management.