petemcewan   27 #1 Posted June 24, 2019 (edited)     The age of the "Deep Fake" is upon us. An age when anything can mean anything to anyone.  Marshall McLuhan was right: " I have insisted that any new structure for codifying experience and moving information,be it alphabet or photography has the power of imposing its structural character and assumptions upon all levels of our private and social lives-even without benefit of concepts or conscious acceptance........That is what I've always meant by "the medium is the message" (On McLuhan, by Paul Benedetti and Nancy DeHart),  Reality will become a quaint notion .                   Edited June 24, 2019 by petemcewan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   2,034 #2 Posted June 24, 2019 ??🤔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Voice of reason   0 #3 Posted June 24, 2019 Sausages Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #4 Posted June 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, petemcewan said: Reality will become a quaint notion . I think for many people it has been for a while.  The biggest problem we have now is that there is seemingly no longer objectivity of analysis in significant sections of the population. What I mean by this is that even if something is demonstrated beyond doubt to be untrue, some people can both accept that it is untrue and yet continue to believe it as long as it fits with their narrative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
petemcewan   27 #5 Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) Rolling J  McLuhan was a communications guru, he wrote extensively about mass communications and its social impact. Apparently it is now possible to cobble together -by means of the Internet - what appears to be real people indulging in all kinds of activities. Like Donald Trump declaring war on Russia-and how do we know it's not real ? Or a weather bomb of extreme weather is about to hit-so dash out and raid Tesco. Edited June 24, 2019 by petemcewan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   2,034 #6 Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, petemcewan said: Rolling J  MvLuhan was a communications guru, he wrote extensively about mass communications and its social impact. Apparently it is now possible to cobble together -by means of the Internet - what appears to be real people indulging in all kinds of activities. Like Donald Trump declaring war on Russia-and how do we know it's not real ? Yup, and that quote made about as much sense as 99.9% of the guff posted on Facebook - i.e. none. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Voice of reason   0 #7 Posted June 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, petemcewan said: Rolling J  McLuhan was a communications guru, he wrote extensively about mass communications and its social impact. Apparently it is now possible to cobble together -by means of the Internet - what appears to be real people indulging in all kinds of activities. Like Donald Trump declaring war on Russia-and how do we know it's not real ? Or a weather bomb of extreme weather is about to hit-so dash out and raid Tesco. That could be done in the past too, by controlling newspapers. The same problem exists now through facebook fake news, but there are also multiple routes for on-the-ground news or evidence to quickly get out too. Double edged sword. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #8 Posted June 24, 2019 I think more important is the self selection of news.  People no longer want to be informed but would rather be reassured that their view of the world along with all their prejudices, is the correct one. With almost all views catered for somewhere, it is very easy for most people to find a news source to fit be that fake news on facebook or the online version of The Guardian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Voice of reason   0 #9 Posted June 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: I think more important is the self selection of news.  People no longer want to be informed but would rather be reassured that their view of the world along with all their prejudices, is the correct one. With almost all views catered for somewhere, it is very easy for most people to find a news source to fit be that fake news on facebook or the online version of The Guardian. As when they bought the paper copies of the Guardian, or Sun or Morning Star? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DeZeus   11 #10 Posted June 24, 2019 My Thoughts are: People will only believe what they think is their version of the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bendix   10 #11 Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said: I think for many people it has been for a while.  The biggest problem we have now is that there is seemingly no longer objectivity of analysis in significant sections of the population. What I mean by this is that even if something is demonstrated beyond doubt to be untrue, some people can both accept that it is untrue and yet continue to believe it as long as it fits with their narrative. I think what you're trying to say is that despite huge advances in education, literacy and technology, people are stupid, have already been stupid and are likely stupider now than ever before.  Dont thank me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   527 #12 Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RollingJ said: ??🤔 I recommend you pick up a copy of Private Eye and seek out Pseud's Corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...