Jo Brand - Hate Speech vs Free Speech

[JamesR123 0]

Of all the "jokes" that have caused trouble recently (Sargon, Mark Meehan, Jess Phillips and Danny Baker), Jo Brand's is by far the most distasteful and dangerous.

 

The reason I think this is because she was commenting on a recent violent (low level) waive of crime targeted against a specific type of person (right wing figures) and jokingly suggested increasing the level of violence.

 

Now I don't think she should have faced legal consequences, nor much of a public backlash.

 

However, my problem is the selective offensive claimed by the media and many on the left.  

[Robin-H 11]

2 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

That’s the point. You were talking about equality of punishment. Totalitarian regimes have come up with a few core ways to achieve that.

 

How long before our political extremists come up with the idea of special prisons for dissenting comedians, journalists etc... Not far away from certain groups thinking that’s a good idea IMO

I have no idea how you've managed to extrapolate that from my posts. I think that takes slippery slope to the extreme! WiseOwl has managed to correctly deduce my point. I'm not commenting on what the punishment is (but if you care to read my posts you'll see I said I don't think there should be a punishment) - I was commenting on the current unfair inequality in the consequences.  

[Janus 28]

3 hours ago, Cyclone said:

But jokes that are deemed racist are different to jokes about politicians and assault.  Hence why the outcome is different.

There is a key point with the Jo Brand issue.

We all know it is a joke. However some feel that it could increase the risk of acid attacks. Many  acid attacks have been against Asian women. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[beefface 10]

23 hours ago, Pettytom said:

Is this the same Marti Caine who specialised in racist jokes?

 

Give me Jo Brand any day. Caine’s act was  often revolting

How dare you! This woman strode like a flame haired colossus across the landscape of 70’s and 80’s light entertainment. 

[El Cid 210]

Frankie Boyle quote - "On balance, I think the only reason our political elite haven’t slaughtered us in camps is they need us to produce children for them to ****."

[Janus 28]

33 minutes ago, beefface said:

How dare you! This woman strode like a flame haired colossus across the landscape of 70’s and 80’s light entertainment. 

Apart from striding across the landscape (stage) was she funny.

[I1L2T3 10]

7 hours ago, Robin-H said:

I have no idea how you've managed to extrapolate that from my posts. I think that takes slippery slope to the extreme! WiseOwl has managed to correctly deduce my point. I'm not commenting on what the punishment is (but if you care to read my posts you'll see I said I don't think there should be a punishment) - I was commenting on the current unfair inequality in the consequences.  

The point is you aren’t thinking about it yet. But the fact you are discussing the fairness of and disparity in punishment/consequences puts you at the beginning of a very dark path. What if you don’t agree with the outcomes in these cases again and again....

Edited June 16, 2019 by I1L2T3

[Robin-H 11]

31 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

The point is you aren’t thinking about it yet. But the fact you are discussing the fairness of and disparity in punishment/consequences puts you at the beginning of a very dark path. What if you don’t agree with the outcomes in these cases again and again....

I honestly have no idea what point you're making. 

 

Wanting fairness in the way people are treated is totalitarian...? right... 

[LizzieBirdswrth 0]

5 hours ago, Janus said:

Apart from striding across the landscape (stage) was she funny.

About as funny as cancer

[beefface 10]

38 minutes ago, LizzieBirdswrth said:

About as funny as cancer

That comment says more about you than the issue being debated.

[LizzieBirdswrth 0]

19 minutes ago, beefface said:

That comment says more about you than the issue being debated.

It should tell you I have cancer, Its not funny, neither is Jo Brand

[beefface 10]

1 hour ago, LizzieBirdswrth said:

It should tell you I have cancer, Its not funny, neither is Jo Brand

You responded to a comment about Marti Caine, not Jo Brand but never mind, oh by the way, get well soon.