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On 23/12/2019 at 18:56, Daven said:

A slap on the wrists - that's all these boys were given really.

It's disgusting that they have been sent to school to learn about diversity - laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

No suprise really,the prisons are full to busting,community service is now the back up and overloaded and cant cope,most offenders get an on spot caution or the courts hand out minimals.

Some kid got five years for a stabbing another lad to death a few weeks back,FIVE YEARS! How long before its an on the spot fine?

Theres no deterent,justice system needs overhauling and the death penalty needs to be re introduced,crime has to have serious consequences.

Community Payback isnt/shouldnt be the fall back,its poorly run,understaffed and doesnt fullfill its criteria,re offending rates are going upward,we need to come up with better answers

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10 hours ago, staninoodle said:

No suprise really,the prisons are full to busting,community service is now the back up and overloaded and cant cope,most offenders get an on spot caution or the courts hand out minimals.

Some kid got five years for a stabbing another lad to death a few weeks back,FIVE YEARS! How long before its an on the spot fine?

Theres no deterent,justice system needs overhauling and the death penalty needs to be re introduced,crime has to have serious consequences.

Community Payback isnt/shouldnt be the fall back,its poorly run,understaffed and doesnt fullfill its criteria,re offending rates are going upward,we need to come up with better answers

I agree with all of that.  Well said.

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12 hours ago, staninoodle said:

No suprise really,the prisons are full to busting,community service is now the back up and overloaded and cant cope,most offenders get an on spot caution or the courts hand out minimals.

Some kid got five years for a stabbing another lad to death a few weeks back,FIVE YEARS! How long before its an on the spot fine?

Theres no deterent,justice system needs overhauling and the death penalty needs to be re introduced,crime has to have serious consequences.

Community Payback isnt/shouldnt be the fall back,its poorly run,understaffed and doesnt fullfill its criteria,re offending rates are going upward,we need to come up with better answers

An appalling idea which would mean more innocent people being victims.

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2 hours ago, Halibut said:

An appalling idea which would mean more innocent people being victims.

Regardless of that fact, if a vote was taken capital punishment would be back. People are still in the eye for an eye mentality.

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7 hours ago, Halibut said:

An appalling idea which would mean more innocent people being victims.

DNA and wall to wall cctv and the IPhone mean mistakes of the past can be eradicated

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2 hours ago, staninoodle said:

DNA and wall to wall cctv and the IPhone mean mistakes of the past can be eradicated

Have you read 1984?

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7 hours ago, lottiecass said:

Regardless of that fact, if a vote was taken capital punishment would be back. People are still in the eye for an eye mentality.

Which is a compelling argument for us never having another referendum.

 

On anything

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9 hours ago, staninoodle said:

DNA and wall to wall cctv and the IPhone mean mistakes of the past can be eradicated

No, it doesn't - and it's highly naive to think otherwise.

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17 hours ago, staninoodle said:

DNA and wall to wall cctv and the IPhone mean mistakes of the past can be eradicated

Reduced, not eradicated. 

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8 hours ago, Janus said:

Reduced, not eradicated. 

And if theres doubt,then you dont issue a death sentance.

Serious crime needs serious penalties to protect those who abide by law in society,5 years for stabbing someone to death is no deterent,if there out in 2 years on tag for 12 months thats hardly prohibitive to them re offending

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6 hours ago, staninoodle said:

And if theres doubt,then you dont issue a death sentance.

Serious crime needs serious penalties to protect those who abide by law in society,5 years for stabbing someone to death is no deterent,if there out in 2 years on tag for 12 months thats hardly prohibitive to them re offending

Draconian sentencing - and indeed the death penalty, are not deterrents. 

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3 hours ago, Halibut said:

Draconian sentencing - and indeed the death penalty, are not deterrents. 

Not true. 100% of people sentenced to death do not re-offend.

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