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14 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Maybe, but not only is Johnson known for trading in wives for younger models but is also known for having long term affairs while still married and then lying about it.

 

Let’s not forget that he was sacked as a junior minister in 2004 for lying about his four year affair with Petronella Wyatt. This is 2019 and people can see whoever they like, but it is the cover ups and lying that make people uneasy. This leadership election is predicated on one single issue. Who do you believe when they say we are leaving the EU in October, so the issue of trust is an important one.

What is important in context, is not so much his personal relationships history, as his executive track record.

 

His personal relationships history 'just' provides an insight into his character as a person.

 

His executive track record provides a much more relevant insight into his managerial capabilities. And on that score, all you have to look at is his Parliamentarian voting record, and his London mayorship and Foreign Secretary periods.

 

Erm...don't fancy yours much :lol:

 

On the topic of Brexiting plans, the EU doesn't believe Boris' and holds it to be an electioneering tool.

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25 minutes ago, L00b said:

On the topic of Brexiting plans, the EU doesn't believe Boris' and holds it to be an electioneering tool.

What both candidates need to be challenged on, is this idea that we can just walk away, refuse to pay the €40bn and go it alone, while simultaneously claiming that everything will be OK because we can continue to trade on WTO terms, Gatt24 rules or the 1875 Huff-on-the Hill Parish Council Trading Arrangement.

 

All of the above cannot be done unilaterally. They all need the agreement of the parties concerned along with a great deal of good will. This will not happen if we just walk away on October 31st. telling the EU that they can whistle for their money. If we do, Sterling will crash and our economy will be in tatters within days. Tory members and most Brexiteers are being sold the lie that in 2019 a ‘can do’ spirit and plenty of ‘good old fashioned English pluck’ will get us through. The rules of C19 British imperialism do not apply in the early C21. 

 

Strip out all non-wholly British owned companies from the UK economy. Remove all non-UK owned technology. Remove all non-British immigrants from the country. Remove ALL non-English players from the Premier League. Remove all non-English specialists from the NHS. Remove all foreign investment in the UK economy. Remove all foreign films from the cinemas and all american television programmes from our living rooms. Remove Apple, Amazon, eBay, GPS and facebook from our computers, phones, satnavs and devices. Take all new cars, lorries and vans not built in the UK off our roads. What will we have left? Very little, and this is exactly what will happen if we cease to trade with the rest of the world.

 

We have been living in a hugely integrated world for decades now and no amount of flag waving and moaning into our beer about foreigners will ever change that.

 

It is safe to say that we won’t be leaving the EU without a deal on October 31st. and politicians on all sides need to be honest about this.

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To me Jeremy Hunt has something of a young Jim Dale about him.

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Million to one *against* no-deal today, apparently :?

 

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19 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Maybe, but not only is Johnson known for trading in wives for younger models but is also known for having long term affairs while still married and then lying about it.

Thank goodness Labour don't have a leader who has ex-wives or had affairs......

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16 hours ago, Magilla said:

Million to one *against* no-deal today, apparently :?

 

really?? i bet you have had a quid on?

 

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1 hour ago, Borista336 said:

really?? i bet you have had a quid on?

 

You're the Borista, surely you're fully clued up on Boris' latest musings?

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I do hope work doesn't start on the 3rd runway for Heathrow in the next few months - Boris is going to be too busy lying down in front of bulldozers to negtiate with the EU.

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32 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Boris is going to be too busy lying down in front of bulldozers to negtiate with the EU.

No worries, the EU said that the withdrawal agreement negotiations ended last November. 👍

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I know I'm stupidly late to the party here, but we won't actually have the results of this leadership contest till late July??

 

So the extension we were given by the EU, which they were very clear we should not just waste, is being eaten up by the drawn out procedure of putting Boris in number 10??

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11 minutes ago, geared said:

I know I'm stupidly late to the party here, but we won't actually have the results of this leadership contest till late July??

 

So the extension we were given by the EU, which they were very clear we should not just waste, is being eaten up by the drawn out procedure of putting Boris in number 10??

I agree with the point you make.  The voting papers could have been sent out to the Tory members at the beginning of this week and voting could have started now.   It could all have been sorted out by the end of next week.  Also the 1922 committee could have changed the rules for this contest because of the circumstances and excluded the Tory members from the vote.  It goes without saying that Jeremy Hunt could have withdrawn from the contest and Boris would be in number 10 Downing Street now working on implementing the democratic 2016 EU referendum result.

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7 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

It goes without saying that Jeremy Hunt could have withdrawn from the contest and Boris would be in number 10 Downing Street now working on implementing the democratic 2016 EU referendum result.

Or lying saying he would when in fact not

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