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A pound to a penny that Johnson will withdraw from the contest, he'll find some spurious excuse to save face, eg " I don't want this much intrusion into my private life" " it's not fair to expose my partner to this..." etc

 

 

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is it offence to record  a conversation without the  knowledge of the other party?

AND to publish it.

  Is it an  an invasion of privacy?

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2 hours ago, Ridgewalk said:

 

Not so much a fool that he realizes he's not up to the job. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's crossed my mind that he may have contrived this whole scenario. 

 

Tory Press now getting behind Hunt, even they realise Pfeffel isn't up to it.

 

Ive seen snippets of his interview with Iain Dale and im sure   Pfeffel was playing a role, acting out, nobody could be so bad or inept.

He does deliberately act out roles. There are many versions of him. 

 

That should ring alarm bells. 

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I don’t think it will stop members voting for him. Besides, I’m not sure they’ll be happy that their chance to vote for a leader is bypassed twice on the trot.

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1 hour ago, Ridgewalk said:

A pound to a penny that Johnson will withdraw from the contest, he'll find some spurious excuse to save face, eg " I don't want this much intrusion into my private life" " it's not fair to expose my partner to this..." etc

 

 

Your confusing Boris with Chukka.  There is more chance Jeremy Hunt will withdraw from the contest.

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57 minutes ago, davyboy said:

is it offence to record  a conversation without the  knowledge of the other party?

AND to publish it.

  Is it an  an invasion of privacy?

Actually no.  Not if it was recorded in a public space or place you have a right to be in as this person was. 

 

Also he didn’t publish it. 

Edited by ez8004

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17 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

I don’t think it will stop members voting for him. Besides, I’m not sure they’ll be happy that their chance to vote for a leader is bypassed twice on the trot.

Please God let this be the case

15 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Your confusing Boris with Chukka.  There is more chance Jeremy Hunt will withdraw from the contest.

No I'm not. Chukka is a sincere non opportunistic politician. 

 

Lets hope Jeremy does.

 

Unfortunately the mysterious men in grey suits won't let him, he's the Tories only hope now.

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6 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

Actually no.  Not if it was recorded in a public space or place you have a right to be in as this person was. 

 

Also he didn’t publish it. 

And weren’t the actions of Johnson and his partner invading the privacy of others. The row was audible from the street.

 

It is reasonable to record it. And reasonable to hand the recording to the police which is what the couple did initially. 

 

The character of a prospective PM is completely in the public interest so it is also reasonable to make the recording available in an appropriate way. The couple could have put it straight on social media. They didn’t but supplied it to a media outlet that reported on it but did not publish it.

 

Nothing wrong with any of this.

4 minutes ago, Ridgewalk said:

Please God let this be the case

No I'm not. Chukka is a sincere non opportunistic politician. 

 

Lets hope Jeremy does

Does he really want to be PM? I’m not sure now

2 hours ago, JamesR123 said:

I was watching BBC Breakfast and apparently this couple have a Twitter history laden with anti Tory tweets.

 

I used to live in a flat and I would hear people argue fairly regularly.  That's a part of living in a flat.  I never called the police.  I also never recorded people in other flats.

 

It is obvious that there is an agenda to this, and the couple should be named.

 

Bojo is still a fool though.

No need to name the couple and a imbecilic witch-hunt.

 

They have already voluntarily gone on public record.

 

The person who recorded the altercation is Tom Penn

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Can I remind those looking for some agenda or conspiracy, that the phone recording would have been exactly the same if it were recorded by Adolf Hitler, Nigel Farage or Steve Bannon.

 

If Johnson hadn’t been having a screaming row with his partner that could be heard outside the confines of the flat then no one would have been able to record anything! 🙄

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43 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

Actually no.  Not if it was recorded in a public space or place you have a right to be in as this person was. 

 

Also he didn’t publish it. 

I think if it was published it would change things. On another thread somebody posted a link describing legality of cctv recording the street outside your house, and data protection. It seems similar category to me.

If they were on his doorstep, they could have been on his property too, depends if it exits straight onto the street.

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4 minutes ago, Voice of reason said:

I think if it was published it would change things. On another thread somebody posted a link describing legality of cctv recording the street outside your house, and data protection. It seems similar category to me.

If they were on his doorstep, they could have been on his property too, depends if it exits straight onto the street.

They were careful not to publish it.

 

What we have is a description of what happened. It is entirely legal to publish that description, unless of course it is not true.

 

But they have a recording. It would take a special kind of idiot to take it to court if a recording would verify the truthfulness of the description.

 

A court case would also reveal the multiple calls to the police that happened, and risk the audio of those becoming public.

 

Johnson is over a barrel with this one.

 

If at a future date some dirt is required then......the audio recording 

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9 minutes ago, Voice of reason said:

I think if it was published it would change things. On another thread somebody posted a link describing legality of cctv recording the street outside your house, and data protection. It seems similar category to me.

If they were on his doorstep, they could have been on his property too, depends if it exits straight onto the street.

They recorded it in their own home.

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