Dardandec   32 #865 Posted June 29, 2019 52 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Plenty of time, 20 minutes is ample time to prorogue Parliament.  "Tory hustings: Johnson refuses to rule out proroguing parliament."  Angel1.  There will be another general election before we even come close to leaving without a deal. As much as you are brainwashed into the misconceptions and lies about the EU, there is a hell of a lot of leave voters who believed all the lies, deceit and mistruths  during the referendum and voted leave because of it.  Now the main one was the fact that we would be better off. If we do end up worse off, then two things will happen.  1- There will be some serious unrest. 2- The people who do finally realise they were duped, will just deny they ever voted leave in the first place, there is evidence of that in the threads on SF and another poster on here will know where i'm coming from on that.  I'd go with option two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   592 #866 Posted June 29, 2019 4 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: But fear not, when good old Boris takes over the leadership and implements Brexit, (by any method will do fine for me) and I suggest the other 17 odd million voters who saw through the Remoaners scare stories, all will be well and our Country will rise from the ashes of remain just like a Phoenix .   I hope you realise the Phoenix is mythical 😎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1   10 #867 Posted June 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Longcol said: I hope you realise the Phoenix is mythical 😎 Wow, thanks for that, who would have thunked it.🤣  Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   592 #868 Posted June 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Wow, thanks for that, who would have thunked it.🤣  Angel1. So our "rise from the ashes" will be mythical, not real 😎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1   10 #869 Posted June 30, 2019 Just now, Longcol said: So our "rise from the ashes" will be mythical, not real 😎 No, the "rise from the ashes" will be very real, the Phoenix is not. Try to be a little less pedantic, you will feel much calmer and happier.  Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #870 Posted June 30, 2019 11 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: Age, certainly, they're much more likely to want a hard brexit. Race, not much but its not very reflective of Britain today. Â But, if you want, forget about those things and convince me that 81000 people will decide a PM who is quite prepared to suspend parliament. How many people voted for Gordon Brown to become PM in 2007? Â Personally I think a change of PM should trigger a general election automatically. I just don't see why the race or age of Conservative party members has to be brought into it, as though white and/or older people shouldn't have a say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #871 Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said:  I just don't see why the race or age of Conservative party members has to be brought into it, as though white and/or older people shouldn't have a say. I think the point is that more than just a minority of white and/or older people who share views possibly at odds with the wider public should have a say.      Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #872 Posted June 30, 2019 17 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Are these the same eggspurts who told us if we did not join the euro than disaster would beset us. That was a load of old balony then, don't you think. Nonsense!  There was a wide range of opinions on the benefits or otherwise of joining the €urozone.  EVERYONE with any credibility thinks that leaving the EU will be damaging for the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182   10 #873 Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, andyofborg said: I think the point is that more than just a minority of white and/or older people who share views possibly at odds with the wider public should have a say.      Maybe they should have referred to the relative size of the electorate compared with the population as a whole then, rather than focussing on their race and age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #874 Posted June 30, 2019 5 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said: How many people voted for Gordon Brown to become PM in 2007?  Personally I think a change of PM should trigger a general election automatically. I just don't see why the race or age of Conservative party members has to be brought into it, as though white and/or older people shouldn't have a say. I’ve no problem - well, I have - with how our system of government operates. What’s good enough for Gordon brown is good enough for Boris Johnson, and at least there is an internal election which there wasn’t when May received here coronation. My problem with Boris is that he’s telling his members that he’s quite prepared to suspend parliament. Brown, to my knowledge, never threatened it and obviously never did it.  Presumably on the race thing, you’d be quite happy if 81000 young Muslim men voted in our next leader? 6 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: No, the "rise from the ashes" will be very real, the Phoenix is not. Try to be a little less pedantic, you will feel much calmer and happier.  Angel1. How will we rise from the ashes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   592 #875 Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:  How will we rise from the ashes? Unicorns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ontarian1981   10 #876 Posted June 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: I’ve no problem - well, I have - with how our system of government operates. What’s good enough for Gordon brown is good enough for Boris Johnson, and at least there is an internal election which there wasn’t when May received here coronation. My problem with Boris is that he’s telling his members that he’s quite prepared to suspend parliament. Brown, to my knowledge, never threatened it and obviously never did it.  Presumably on the race thing, you’d be quite happy if 81000 young Muslim men voted in our next leader? How will we rise from the ashes? On a sack cloth next Ash Wednesday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...