Voice of reason   0 #133 Posted May 29, 2019 12 hours ago, Pettytom said: What a fascinating choice of example.  You might wish to pull your disguise up a bit, your identity is showing What, in a freedom of religion thread? It's a good example. I'm happy to say I'm intolerant of islamic extremists being homophobic, or EDL supporters being racist. Both unacceptable. Some people will only talk about one or the other, because the other doesn't fit their agenda. So, I can't see your problem or your incinuation to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #134 Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Voice of reason said: Both unacceptable. Some people will only talk about one or the other, Really?  Most people I know who are anti racist are equally anti homophobic and oppose both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Voice of reason   0 #135 Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: Really?  Most people I know who are anti racist are equally anti homophobic and oppose both. That's why I qualified it with 'some'. I appreciate your honesty, in confirming my opinion, by saying only most people you know oppose both. It's a pity all people aren't equally vociferous in condemning both these traits, regardless of circumstances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #136 Posted May 31, 2019 So, I was asked to clarify my post no. 17, long time ago. Of course, writing that post, I had muslim customs in my mind. Simply because it's usually muslims who take prayer breaks. I admit, as an atheist, I'm not familiar with all the religious customs. If there are other religions that require regular prayer breaks, my post apply to those also - no difference to me!  To those who compared prayer breaks to smoke breaks - you're quite correct. Smoke breaks are driven by addiction of smokers (and as we all learned in one of the previous threads here - addiction is a disease). I'm glad you see the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #137 Posted May 31, 2019 As an atheist, have you tried taking coffee breaks? Or if you don't drink coffee, make it tea, or water, or just breathing... Nobody will stop you, nobody is losing out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #138 Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Cyclone said: As an atheist, have you tried taking coffee breaks? Or if you don't drink coffee, make it tea, or water, or just breathing... Nobody will stop you, nobody is losing out. Yep, I love coffee and take coffee breaks at work. However, I don't accommodate my work schedule to my coffee breaks. I take my breaks only if my current work task allows it and most importantly, only if it doesn't interfere with work of my colleagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48   92 #139 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Branyy said: Yep, I love coffee and take coffee breaks at work. However, I don't accommodate my work schedule to my coffee breaks. I take my breaks only if my current work task allows it and most importantly, only if it doesn't interfere with work of my colleagues. Nurses don't always get time for coffee breaks unfortunately.  On the subject of prayer, I've worked in several hospitals, as I also did agency work in the early years which enabled me to travel extensively.   During that time I Iworked with people of many faiths and none, and yet I have never come across any mention of prayer on duty or in break time by another member of staff.  That doesnt necessary mean those who wish to pray don't do so. Anyone can say a quick prayer in silence at anytime.    Edited May 31, 2019 by janie48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #140 Posted June 1, 2019 10 hours ago, janie48 said: Nurses don't always get time for coffee breaks unfortunately.  On the subject of prayer, I've worked in several hospitals, as I also did agency work in the early years which enabled me to travel extensively.   During that time I Iworked with people of many faiths and none, and yet I have never come across any mention of prayer on duty or in break time by another member of staff.  That doesnt necessary mean those who wish to pray don't do so. Anyone can say a quick prayer in silence at anytime.    I respect your opinion, many year ago I would've shared the same view. But my experiences are different. I've been always working in multicultural teams and most of the time there was no issue with anyone's religion, beliefs and habits. Well, until it happened once and powerlessness of the staff and tiptoeing of supervisors struck me. And only after that I've learned that such issues are not that uncommon as I thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #141 Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Branyy said: I respect your opinion, many year ago I would've shared the same view. But my experiences are different. I've been always working in multicultural teams and most of the time there was no issue with anyone's religion, beliefs and habits. Well, until it happened once and powerlessness of the staff and tiptoeing of supervisors struck me. And only after that I've learned that such issues are not that uncommon as I thought. What exactly happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #142 Posted June 2, 2019 On 31/05/2019 at 17:33, Branyy said: Yep, I love coffee and take coffee breaks at work. However, I don't accommodate my work schedule to my coffee breaks. I take my breaks only if my current work task allows it and most importantly, only if it doesn't interfere with work of my colleagues. Your choice presumably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lucian Hodoboc   0 #143 Posted July 7, 2019 While I definitely think that she should have been given another chance (yes, I'm aware that she was previously warned, but as a Christian, I believe in giving people several chances), I also believe that her approach was a bit unwise. As Christians, we are called to spread The Gospel, it's true, but we are not called to force people to listen to it against their will. Neither Jesus, nor the apostles did this. We should always approach people politely and ask them whether they feel comfortable with you addressing the topic of religion. It has become quite difficult to do this lately, as even asking someone if they believe in God is considered too personal of a question, and some militant atheists are quick to play the victim card in most situations. The nurse should have casually mentioned to the patients that she was a Christian, and abstained from making any further religious comments towards the patients who made it clear to her that they were nonbelievers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...