Should remission on jail sentences be scrapped ?

[rudds1 102]

Should remission be scrapped and prisoners serve their full sentence ?

[BigAl1 142]

No but it should not be automatic but in addition if any further offense is committed  it should be automatic that the offender first serves the full period of remission prior to their new sentence

[Jim Hardie 517]

I'd settle for a bit of honesty. Stop pretending an eight year sentence is anything other than four and stop calling fifteen years life.

[tinfoilhat 11]

21 minutes ago, Jim Hardie said:

I'd settle for a bit of honesty. Stop pretending an eight year sentence is anything other than four and stop calling fifteen years life.

I'd agree with that. If I stabbed someone I'd fully expect to be out in 7 years and that's not enough.

[I1L2T3 10]

There’s no magic money tree.....

[InigoMontoya 10]

4 hours ago, rudds1 said:

Should remission be scrapped and prisoners serve their full sentence ?

Only if you fix the sentence at a much lower rate tarrif at sentencing.

 

Then you run into problems with the mandatory life sentence for murder 

 

So.

 

To answer your question. 

 

No.

 

Tarrif?

 

Tarrif?

 

What nonsense is this, autocorrect?

 

Tariff

Edited May 19, 2019 by InigoMontoya

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

Should remission be scrapped and prisoners serve their full sentence ?   Yes.

 

If you cause another human to die by nefarious means, then a full life sentence should be mandatory. Full life meaning you only get out in a wooden overcoat.

 

Angel1. 

46 minutes ago, InigoMontoya said:

Only if you fix the sentence at a much lower rate tarrif at sentencing.

 

Then you run into problems with the mandatory life sentence for murder 

 

So.

 

To answer your question. 

 

No.

 

Tarrif?

 

Tarrif?

 

What nonsense is this, autocorrect?

 

Tariff

What problems?.

 

Angel1.

[Janus 28]

If a prisoner knows that they have to serve the full sentence, does the prison service have any alternative bargaining chips to ensure good behaviour?

 

[InigoMontoya 10]

6 minutes ago, Janus said:

If a prisoner knows that they have to serve the full sentence, does the prison service have any alternative bargaining chips to ensure good behaviour?

 

More importantly, what does the state have as a bargaining chip to try and ensure any form of redemption?

 

We lock people away as punishment, not for punishment.

 

Once you start denying anyone their chance of genuine remorse, you've left the path of humanity and decency.

[rudds1 102]

25 minutes ago, Janus said:

If a prisoner knows that they have to serve the full sentence, does the prison service have any alternative bargaining chips to ensure good behaviour?

 

If a prisoner misbehaves remove their visits ,put them on 23 lock up ,use solitary confinement etc  one thing most prisoners look forward to is their fortnightly visits 

[tinfoilhat 11]

43 minutes ago, InigoMontoya said:

More importantly, what does the state have as a bargaining chip to try and ensure any form of redemption?

 

We lock people away as punishment, not for punishment.

 

Once you start denying anyone their chance of genuine remorse, you've left the path of humanity and decency.

Fair comment. Maybe we start with 30, out in 15. 7 years isn’t enough for murder.

[melthebell 862]

4 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

There’s no magic money tree.....

Yes there is, it's in may's back garden