rudds1 Â Â 102 #1 Posted May 19, 2019 Should remission be scrapped and prisoners serve their full sentence ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BigAl1   143 #2 Posted May 19, 2019 No but it should not be automatic but in addition if any further offense is committed it should be automatic that the offender first serves the full period of remission prior to their new sentence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   527 #3 Posted May 19, 2019 I'd settle for a bit of honesty. Stop pretending an eight year sentence is anything other than four and stop calling fifteen years life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #4 Posted May 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jim Hardie said: I'd settle for a bit of honesty. Stop pretending an eight year sentence is anything other than four and stop calling fifteen years life. I'd agree with that. If I stabbed someone I'd fully expect to be out in 7 years and that's not enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #5 Posted May 19, 2019 There’s no magic money tree..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
InigoMontoya   10 #6 Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, rudds1 said: Should remission be scrapped and prisoners serve their full sentence ? Only if you fix the sentence at a much lower rate tarrif at sentencing.  Then you run into problems with the mandatory life sentence for murder  So.  To answer your question.  No.  Tarrif?  Tarrif?  What nonsense is this, autocorrect?  Tariff Edited May 19, 2019 by InigoMontoya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1   10 #7 Posted May 19, 2019 Should remission be scrapped and prisoners serve their full sentence ?  Yes.  If you cause another human to die by nefarious means, then a full life sentence should be mandatory. Full life meaning you only get out in a wooden overcoat.  Angel1. 46 minutes ago, InigoMontoya said: Only if you fix the sentence at a much lower rate tarrif at sentencing.  Then you run into problems with the mandatory life sentence for murder  So.  To answer your question.  No.  Tarrif?  Tarrif?  What nonsense is this, autocorrect?  Tariff What problems?.  Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Janus   28 #8 Posted May 19, 2019 If a prisoner knows that they have to serve the full sentence, does the prison service have any alternative bargaining chips to ensure good behaviour?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
InigoMontoya   10 #9 Posted May 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Janus said: If a prisoner knows that they have to serve the full sentence, does the prison service have any alternative bargaining chips to ensure good behaviour?  More importantly, what does the state have as a bargaining chip to try and ensure any form of redemption?  We lock people away as punishment, not for punishment.  Once you start denying anyone their chance of genuine remorse, you've left the path of humanity and decency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rudds1   102 #10 Posted May 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, Janus said: If a prisoner knows that they have to serve the full sentence, does the prison service have any alternative bargaining chips to ensure good behaviour?  If a prisoner misbehaves remove their visits ,put them on 23 lock up ,use solitary confinement etc  one thing most prisoners look forward to is their fortnightly visits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #11 Posted May 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, InigoMontoya said: More importantly, what does the state have as a bargaining chip to try and ensure any form of redemption?  We lock people away as punishment, not for punishment.  Once you start denying anyone their chance of genuine remorse, you've left the path of humanity and decency. Fair comment. Maybe we start with 30, out in 15. 7 years isn’t enough for murder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #12 Posted May 19, 2019 4 hours ago, I1L2T3 said: There’s no magic money tree..... Yes there is, it's in may's back garden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...