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27 minutes ago, geared said:

 

This, if it all falls to **** you can bet your life that you won't find one single person who'd admit they supported Brexit.

The best you'd get is "Not what I voted for" which is quickly becoming the UK's favourite motto.

 

 

You can bet your bottom dollar if it fails the Tory press / Farage etc will blame the EU for it by "seeking revenge etc" and unfortunately that will  be swallowed by huge numbers of Brexit voters.

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1 hour ago, Longcol said:

You can bet your bottom dollar if it fails the Tory press / Farage etc will blame the EU for it by "seeking revenge etc" and unfortunately that will  be swallowed by huge numbers of Brexit voters.

If that's the worse that can happen (they've already long swallowed that "it's all the EU's fault": how else do you explain yesteryear's Leave 2016 and GE2017 votes, and the recent Brexit Party vote?)

 

The 5m votes to the Brexit Party from Brexit voters (around 30% of the 17m Leave voters in 2016) are now numerically matched by the 5m hard-Remainers Brit-in-EU and EU27-in-UK. Food for thoughts ;)

 

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15 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

If our elected, sovereign government got off their collective arses and helped those who most likely voted brexit - do something about housing for poorer young 'uns, jobs, sort out the care issue for the old uns and the NHS  for everyone, handle immigration better - nobody (apart from the racists) would really care. 

 

People go for easy populist answers when things aren't going well. Leaving the EU won't help anyone. 

Yes - people are less likely to go looking for scapegoats if there isn't much to scapegoat them for.  Not that the EU is entirely blameless, but international problems require international solutions.  Remain and reform.  Let's hope the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive is a sign that the tanker is slowly turning round.

 

15 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

But, I've a feeling that's going to happen and if farage is allowed to stick his oar in,  it will end badly on many levels.

Yes, Fuehrer Farage is mutating from gurning idiot into something much more dangerous - Marine Le Pen minus the moderate economic policies.

 

[For avoidance of doubt, note that I'm using 'Fuehrer' purely for its alliterative value there, and am not implying any spiritual kinship between Mr Farage and a certain notorious historical figure.]

 

Though I'm not sure that Brexit is going to happen, deal or no deal.  It would still have to either get through Parliament, or the EU would need to pull the plug.  Even with Boris Johnson at the helm (God help us) the former is unlikely.  I'm not so sure about the latter, but one thing the EU is good at is kicking the can down the road.

 

[I think the bigger risk within the UK is that there is a second referendum which goes the 'wrong' way again.]

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6 minutes ago, CaptainSwing said:

[For avoidance of doubt, note that I'm using 'Fuehrer' purely for its alliterative value there, and am not implying any spiritual kinship between Mr Farage and a certain notorious historical figure.]

Matt Frei wasn’t so shy on Monday’s C4 News.

 

He asked Farage who was responsible for deciding Brexit Party policy and if anyone could depose him as leader. Farage looked sheepish and didn’t answer. Frei then pointed out that there was historical precedent for such a situation. 😅

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58 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Matt Frei wasn’t so shy on Monday’s C4 News.

 

He asked Farage who was responsible for deciding Brexit Party policy and if anyone could depose him as leader. Farage looked sheepish and didn’t answer. Frei then pointed out that there was historical precedent for such a situation. 😅

Yeah, C4 News is something of a last bastion of independent reporting.  Can't be long before it's privatised.

 

Edit:  Or nobbled, like the BBC.  But I suspect just being closed down, or bought out by News Corp or whoever, is the fate more likely to befall C4.

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6 minutes ago, Del Usory said:

Ms Widdecombe said it was a "tribute" to Nigel Farage, the party leader, that he had been able to unite people from different political viewpoints.

 

All right-wingers and all Brexit supporters. That must have been a really tough job to get all them together! 😱

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