Euro Elections

[I1L2T3 10]

8 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

British jobs for British workers. Companies should be training people up to fill their skills gap. Instead they import ready made versions, trained and educated at someone else's expense. Of course this suits big business, but doesn't make it right.

That won’t get better if we leave the EU

 

Note the demands of India in any future trade deal. Has literally millions of software professionals, accountants, doctors, engineers graduating from its  universities every single year, and not enough domestic jobs.

 

The Indian government wants visas. And lots of them.

[Car Boot 10]

7 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

You're going to be really sad when the right wing nut jobs you've voted for take this country to the cleaners.

I don't know what utopia you are living in, but right wing nut jobs have already taken this country to the cleaners and sold out its people.

[Pettytom 1]

6 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

I don't know what utopia you are living in, but right wing nut jobs have already taken this country to the cleaners and sold out its people.

Yes. Ann Widdecombe was one of them.  The Rees Mogg clan were also there. 

 

They are are your new bedfellows. 

 

Sleep tight.

[tinfoilhat 11]

6 hours ago, Car Boot said:

I don't know what utopia you are living in, but right wing nut jobs have already taken this country to the cleaners and sold out its people.

And you think that farage et al will bow out after a no deal has been secured and say "right then, let's embark on a full nationalisation programme and tax the rich into oblivion".

 

No you don't, you think Jeremy will ride in and save the day. He won't, and neither will his successor and by then we're <removed>.

Edited May 28, 2019 by nikki-red

[El Cid 220]

17 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

British jobs for British workers. Companies should be training people up to fill their skills gap. Instead they import ready made versions, trained and educated at someone else's expense. Of course this suits big business, but doesn't make it right.

Have you ever seen the TV program about UK workers going abroad for work?

 

Auf Wiedersehen Pet!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auf_Wiedersehen,_Pet

 

I fear you are living in a world the progress has overtaken, at least 50 years ago.

People can just seek employment and get on a plane to travel 1,000 miles, for the cost of a weeks wage.

What was the cost of flying to Germany 50+ years ago?

[Top Cats Hat 10]

48 minutes ago, El Cid said:

 

What was the cost of flying to Germany 50+ years ago?

Fly?

 

Didn’t they drive there in Oz’s 1969 Ford Zephyr?

[Car Boot 10]

5 hours ago, El Cid said:

Have you ever seen the TV program about UK workers going abroad for work?

 

Auf Wiedersehen Pet!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auf_Wiedersehen,_Pet

 

I fear you are living in a world the progress has overtaken, at least 50 years ago.

People can just seek employment and get on a plane to travel 1,000 miles, for the cost of a weeks wage.

What was the cost of flying to Germany 50+ years ago?

Your 'progress' in flying is causing catastrophic climate change. Just so selfish people can make money.

[nikki-red 308]

Just a reminder that this thread is about the elections.

If you want to only discuss Brexit please do so in the existing thread.

Thank you.

[Lockdoctor 10]

9 hours ago, Pettytom said:

If winning an election only requires 30% of the vote, why are we still trying to Brexit?

 

After all remain won 48.5% of the vote in the referendum. (And remain parties far exceeded 30% yesterday)

It all depends on the type of election what percentage of the vote wins an election.  In the EU referendum Remain  got  48%  of the vote but didn't win because Leave got 52%  of the vote.  The Brexit Party won last week's European Election in the UK because they got a  much higher share of the vote than any other single party and were awarded far more seats than any other single party.  

Edited May 28, 2019 by Lockdoctor

[El Cid 220]

3 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The Brexit Party won last week's European Election in the UK because they got a  much higher share of the vote than any other single party and were awarded far more seats than any other single party.  

 

 

That's right, UKIP won the 2014 EU election with 26.6%, they got 24 seats; in this last election the Brexit party got 30.5% of the votes and 29 seats.

 

The only issue arises when people think it was a referendum, you need above 50% to win one of those, although sometimes there are other stipulations.

The Constitution of Denmark can be changed only after a referendum. To pass, the yes votes must not only out-number the no votes, they must also number at least 40% of the electorate.  Quite a high standard, I understand the referendum to leave the UK, only 37% of the electorate voted to leave.

 

[Lockdoctor 10]

4 minutes ago, El Cid said:

 

That's right, UKIP won the 2014 EU election with 26.6%, they got 24 seats; in this last election the Brexit party got 30.5% of the votes and 29 seats.

 

The only issue arises when people think it was a referendum, you need above 50% to win one of those, although sometimes there are other stipulations.

The Constitution of Denmark can be changed only after a referendum. To pass, the yes votes must not only out-number the no votes, they must also number at least 40% of the electorate.  Quite a high standard, I understand the referendum to leave the UK, only 37% of the electorate voted to leave.

 

The rules of a referendum are determined well before votes are cast. The European Elections were not a referendum.  The result of the 2014 European Election influenced David Cameron and led him to promise the EU referendum if the Tories won the 2015 General Election. The result of the recent European Election will influence the Tory Party when they choose our country's next Prime Minister.

[Pettytom 1]

1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

It all depends on the type of election what percentage of the vote wins an election.  In the EU referendum Remain  got  48%  of the vote but didn't win because Leave got 52%  of the vote.  The Brexit Party won last week's European Election in the UK because they got a  much higher share of the vote than any other single party and were awarded far more seats than any other single party.  

It does indeed depend upon the type of election.

 

As the Euro election was a proportional representation election, in what way could 30% of the vote be considered “winning”?