Euro Elections

[Pettytom 1]

5 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

A WTO full clean Brexit party won the European elections by an absolutely huge margin. The global capitalists refuse to accept this fact, and are attempting to ignore the will of millions of people YET AGAIN.

 

RESPECT THE RESULT.

 

LEAVE THE EU.

You seem to have mathematical issues. You’ve failed to grasp the arithmetic of the EU referendum. Now you don’t seem to understand that A VOTE OF 30% ISN’T A RESOUNDING VICTORY. In fact it is pretty much what UKIP managed last time.

[ez8004 10]

5 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The multinationals will  clothe, feed and tend to the needs of the masses?

 

The corporate agenda that permeates the governing institutions of all of the global economy, such as the EU and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), have sacrosanct rules and regulations that have given more importance to the ‘rights’ and 'freedoms' of big business than the rights and needs of people.

 

Who needs the nation state when big business controls the world?

You still haven't explained how EU legislation has given the strongest workers' rights ever.  Still haven't explained how far more socialist countries are accelerating social reform from within the EU that eventually permeates to us at far faster rate than if we relied on our own government to do it.

 

3 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

You seem to have mathematical issues. You’ve failed to grasp the arithmetic of the EU referendum. Now you don’t seem to understand that A VOTE OF 30% ISN’T A RESOUNDING VICTORY. In fact it is pretty much what UKIP managed last time.

That boys and girls is why you need to be educated to a decent level.

Edited May 27, 2019 by ez8004

[Car Boot 10]

3 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

You still haven't explained how EU legislation has given the strongest workers' rights ever.  Still haven't explained how far more socialist countries are accelerating social reform from within the EU that eventually permeates to us at far faster rate than if we relied on our own government to do it.

Trades union activism and democratically elected sovereign nation state governments have given us the strongest workers rights, not the freedoms for big business neoliberal fig leaf democracy EU (which can remove it's workers rights anytime it pleases, as Greece is well aware).

[ez8004 10]

10 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Crop pickers are not net contributors. EU migrants being net contributors is only possible if they are taking higher paid jobs, which in turn is causing displacement of employment.

So are you advocating that there should be a preference system for British workers?

 

Do businesses look like a charity to you?  They simply hire the best talent.  If British workers are not good enough, then whose fault is that? 

 

We have cultural problem where intellect and education is frowned upon.  What is that classic line from Gove, “I think the people in this country have had enough of experts,”.

 

Good job there.  I’ll be more than happy to pay for my children’s higher education in its entirety.  Why?  Because, it is the natural progression to a more civilised society.  They’ll be far more likely to have decent careers that can pay for the lifestyle they want.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

2 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Trades union activism and democratically elected sovereign nation state governments have given us the strongest workers rights, 

How much union activism do you think will be allowed in Farage’s brave new world?

 

Do you seriously think this whole Brexit project is being bankrolled by corrupt millionaire businessmen to improve workers rights?

 

Seriously?

[Car Boot 10]

11 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

You seem to have mathematical issues. You’ve failed to grasp the arithmetic of the EU referendum. Now you don’t seem to understand that A VOTE OF 30% ISN’T A RESOUNDING VICTORY. In fact it is pretty much what UKIP managed last time.

Ukip won the European elections in 2014.

 

The Brexit party won the European elections in 2019, with more seats.

 

If winning the most votes and seats is not a resounding victory, then I don't know what is? 

 

It's this state of denial about reality which lead to the Brexit vote in the first place.

[ez8004 10]

Just now, Car Boot said:

Ukip won the European elections in 2014.

 

The Brexit party won the European elections in 2019, with more seats.

 

If winning the most votes and seats is not a resounding victory, then I don't know what is? 

 

It's this state of denial about reality which lead to the Brexit vote in the first place.

You do know that's not how a second referendum will be counted right?  Referendums are not run on a party basis.  Just telling you, since you don't seem to know.

[WiseOwl182 10]

8 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

So are you advocating that there should be a preference system for British workers?

 

Do businesses look like a charity to you?  They simply hire the best talent.  If British workers are not good enough, then whose fault is that? 

 

We have cultural problem where intellect and education is frowned upon.  What is that classic line from Gove, “I think the people in this country have had enough of experts,”.

 

Good job there.  I’ll be more than happy to pay for my children’s higher education in its entirety.  Why?  Because, it is the natural progression to a more civilised society.  They’ll be far more likely to have decent careers that can pay for the lifestyle they want.

British jobs for British workers. Companies should be training people up to fill their skills gap. Instead they import ready made versions, trained and educated at someone else's expense. Of course this suits big business, but doesn't make it right.

[tinfoilhat 11]

24 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The multinationals will  clothe, feed and tend to the needs of the masses?

 

The corporate agenda that permeates the governing institutions of all of the global economy, such as the EU and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), have sacrosanct rules and regulations that have given more importance to the ‘rights’ and 'freedoms' of big business than the rights and needs of people.

 

Who needs the nation state when big business controls the world?

 

We do!

You're going to be really sad when the right wing nut jobs you've voted for take this country to the cleaners.

[Pettytom 1]

4 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Ukip won the European elections in 2014.

 

The Brexit party won the European elections in 2019, with more seats.

 

If winning the most votes and seats is not a resounding victory, then I don't know what is? 

 

It's this state of denial about reality which lead to the Brexit vote in the first place.

If winning an election only requires 30% of the vote, why are we still trying to Brexit?

 

After all remain won 48.5% of the vote in the referendum. (And remain parties far exceeded 30% yesterday)

[Longcol 604]

6 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

It's this state of denial about reality which lead to the Brexit vote in the first place.

Appalling leadership from comrade Corbyn contributed a great deal - before the referendum and since.

[tinfoilhat 11]

5 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

British jobs for British workers. Companies should be training people up to fill their skills gap. Instead they import ready made versions, trained and educated at someone else's expense. Of course this suits big business, but doesn't make it right.

If you think trade deals won't involve great numbers of foreigners (I'm thinking India specifically) coming over here to fill the gaps left by EU migrants you are going to be very very disappointed. Non-EU immigration continues to rise anyway, right now.