Euro Elections

[WiseOwl182 10]

51 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

 

So all the EU money that was given to South Yorkshire will be returned to the regional development fund right?  All the research money Sheffield University gets for example in building and running the AMRC can be returned?

 

What EU money? We're net contributors to the budget. We pay in a lot and they redistribute some of it back. It's our own money back again.

[Car Boot 10]

19 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

What EU money? We're net contributors to the budget. We pay in a lot and they redistribute some of it back. It's our own money back again.

Exactly.

 

The EU doesn't have any money of its own. It uses member states money to bribe people into believing that it's paying for things - when in reality it's the member states own taxpayers that are the ones doing the paying.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Car Boot

[Pettytom 1]

1 minute ago, Car Boot said:

Exactly.

 

The EU doesn't have any money of its own. It uses member states money to bribe people into believing that it's paying for things - when in reality it's the member states taxpayers that are the ones doing the paying.

But, as a socialist, surely you are in favour of tax and spend.

 

And a bit of wealth redistribution 

[tinfoilhat 11]

1 minute ago, Pettytom said:

But, as a socialist, surely you are in favour of tax and spend.

 

And a bit of wealth redistribution 

Cornwall and the former coal fields (and former steel works now) won't see that EU money replaced.

[Car Boot 10]

1 minute ago, Pettytom said:

But, as a socialist, surely you are in favour of tax and spend.

 

And a bit of wealth redistribution 

The EU does not redistribute wealth.

 

The EU spends member states taxes on neoliberal workfare and self promotion.

[Pettytom 1]

2 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The EU does not redistribute wealth.

 

The EU spends member states taxes on neoliberal workfare and self promotion.

Which is of course wealth redistribution 

Edited May 27, 2019 by Pettytom

[Voice of reason 0]

4 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Which is of course wealth redistribution 

You can join my scheme. It's just £3000 per year, and I spend £1000 of it doing improvement schemes on your home and the rest on other schemes of that I deem worthy. Win-win

[ez8004 10]

51 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

What EU money? We're net contributors to the budget. We pay in a lot and they redistribute some of it back. It's our own money back again.

You pay into the budget do you? You're a net drain on the welfare / economy. I am a net contributor and I actually see the benefits of developing underdeveloped regions to the overall EU. Your rather blinked view does not see the benefits to business that take advantage of the single market access for example. The strengthening of workers rights by EU legislations. The access to free university education because of the free movement of people. Unified environmental legislation to control pollution. There are many benefits. Give me one thing that actually is a problem. 

[retep 68]

1 hour ago, ez8004 said:

By following the democratic process of this country. Really?

 

We have a way to describe people like you. Unqualified. You fundamentally have no idea what you are talking about and have no idea how parliamentary process works. You have no will to learn. People like you cannot be educated. I suppose there is a reason why leavers do have lower attainment in education. 

Education doesn't seem to have had much impact on you.

[WiseOwl182 10]

46 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

You pay into the budget do you? You're a net drain on the welfare / economy. I am a net contributor and I actually see the benefits of developing underdeveloped regions to the overall EU. Your rather blinked view does not see the benefits to business that take advantage of the single market access for example. The strengthening of workers rights by EU legislations. The access to free university education because of the free movement of people. Unified environmental legislation to control pollution. There are many benefits. Give me one thing that actually is a problem. 

We should be able to have a single market without becoming a superstate.

 

As a net contributor to the EU budget, the UK is subsidising poorer EU countries, who also enjoy single market benefits but in addition to this, receive our cash, net receipt.

[L00b 441]

3 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

You can't have it both ways. First you say that our newly elected largest party in the EU parliament has such little say it's irrelevant, and now you're saying that's not how the EU works and that we do have sovereignty. Which is it?

I'm not having it both ways howsoever.

 

You seem to have some major issues with reading comprehension. 

[WiseOwl182 10]

Just now, L00b said:

I'm not having it both ways howsoever.

 

You seem to have some major issues with reading comprehension. 

You said that our largest elected party, the Brexit Party, will basically have no influence ("irrelevant") in the context of 29 MEPs out of 700+. Correct?

 

You have also said the EU is democratic as the UK is represented in its parliament. Correct?

 

They cannot both be true. Either our representation is "irrelevant", or we control our own legislation. Which is it?