People going to work on bikes.

[WiseOwl182 10]

14 hours ago, Cyclone said:

I don't ride on the pavement, but I do think that the law should be changed to allow slow cycling on the pavement, up to jogging speed.

Who's going to police speeding cyclists? They can't even be policed with red traffic lights so I highly doubt speed limits on pavements will be enforceable.

[Cyclone 10]

9 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Who's going to police speeding cyclists? They can't even be policed with red traffic lights so I highly doubt speed limits on pavements will be enforceable.

Impossible to enforce really, but then many laws are.  That doesn't mean that most people don't obey them.

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On 22/05/2019 at 07:48, Cyclone said:

I don't ride on the pavement, but I do think that the law should be changed to allow slow cycling on the pavement, up to jogging speed.

I don’t think it would be practical within busy city street areas with a lot of pedestrians, but on quieter streets it would.

 

I think there should be a large scale conversion of quieter suburban pavements, and pavements on out of town roads, particularly 50mph and NSL roads, to make them into shared footpaths-cyclepaths. They should have an absolute “cycle gives way to pedestrian” rule.

[WiseOwl182 10]

12 hours ago, Cyclone said:

Impossible to enforce really, but then many laws are.  That doesn't mean that most people don't obey them.

I'd say most cyclists don't obey red light laws, so would be even less likely to obey pavement speed limits without a speedo.

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3 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

I'd say most cyclists don't obey red light laws, so would be even less likely to obey pavement speed limits without a speedo.

I'd say you're wrong on both counts. 

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34 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

I'd say you're wrong on both counts. 

Can’t say I’ve seen the latter.

 

seen loads of the former - almost every day.

 

a cyclist this morning went round me and through a red light at commonside. Very rare I see cyclists wait at red unless there’s no other option.

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11 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

I'd say most cyclists don't obey red light laws, so would be even less likely to obey pavement speed limits without a speedo.

You've got confirmation bias.  There are a minority of cyclists who don't stop for red lights, but they're much less dangerous than the motorists who do the same.

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12 hours ago, makapaka said:

Can’t say I’ve seen the latter.

 

seen loads of the former - almost every day.

 

a cyclist this morning went round me and through a red light at commonside. Very rare I see cyclists wait at red unless there’s no other option.

I cycle to work every day. I stop at all red lights,  as do the vast majority of cyclists I see,  in town and along Ecclesall Road, so I'm doubting your statement about it being very rare.

 

In truth though, I would rather see a cyclist going through a red light than another car on the road.  A future full of more and more cars is not sustainable.

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On 22/05/2019 at 07:48, Cyclone said:

I don't ride on the pavement, but I do think that the law should be changed to allow slow cycling on the pavement, up to jogging speed.

Personally I don't think it'd be a good idea to change the law. I do think the police should show leniency though, as per the current guidance on the matter.

17 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

I'd say most cyclists don't obey red light laws, so would be even less likely to obey pavement speed limits without a speedo.

I would agree (based on my own daily experience) that a lot of cyclists don't stop for red lights but it's still a majority that do.

It was only Tuesday that I was pushing my own bike across a crossing (quickest way to get to where I was going that day) when another cyclist tried to go through the red but had to swerve onto the pavement to avoid me, almost hitting a pedestrian in the process.

11 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

In truth though, I would rather see a cyclist going through a red light than another car on the road.  A future full of more and more cars is not sustainable.

Bit of an odd statement, I know I'd rather see another cyclist on the road than another car on the road, but not sure I'd rather see existing cyclists break the law than see another car on the road.

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On 17/05/2019 at 13:03, Bargepole23 said:

I'm quite happy for pedestrians to cross the road in front of me, or wander along cycle paths, but please don't gawp at your phone whilst doing so, paying zero attention to other users.

I'd say the same for motorists, last week I was nearly wiped out by some multi-tasking chap who was trying to  exit the Grosvenor Casino, holding his phone to his ear while only looking to his left for traffic (I was approaching from the right). He pulled out and I had to swerve to avoid him. If there had been a car deciding to overtake me at that point I could have been typing this from a hospital bed now.

Edited May 24, 2019 by RootsBooster

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At red traffic light today a cyclist came up the inside of me, as they can then stopped at the red as the law says.

Would I give two hoots if he'd carried on a turned left? No.

Would I care if a worker cycled down Fargate on his/her way home? No.

Seems to be pointless anger at trivialities.

[Cyclone 10]

What I find odd about the claims re:cyclists and lights, is that the same people don't apply massive generalisations to motorists in the same way.

On Thursday I watched a car go up a wrong way street the wrong way, in fact, that's two vehicles in 2 weeks, the first actually made an illegal turn into the one way street, the other just ignored a no entry and proceeded up it.

I don't start claiming that all motorists ignore one way restrictions though.